Ported vs non ported Guide gun
- Thread starter jdemora
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I have owned both and found that there were hardly any differances between the two in almost all aspects other than one had some holes in it 
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I think , now this is something I may have had a dream about, but there may be a brake out there that directs the noise away from the shooter 
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jjohnwm said:
Who cares
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horshur said:
Isn't that backwards? If it was a bench gun, then all the whining about noise from bystanders might matter, but if you are mainly using it in the woods, or offhand at the range, then who cares?
Rather than just a hunting rifle this is designed as a dangerous game defense rifle, so if porting gives you confidence in your chances for slightly quicker follow up shots, then what's wrong with it?
There is a "Marshall Stanton" article about the 444Marlin that showed some interesting comparison of the ported vs non-ported model. He is a very experienced shooter with the non-ported model, and found a little better accuracy and much less muzzle rise and shoulder abuse when comparing the ported model from the bench.
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cariboo_kid said:
I have had the ported and non ported version GG in 45/70 sitting side by side at the range. Shooting a 405g at around 1900fps there was hardly a noticeable differance between the two as far as felt recoil or muzzle jump, not enough to worry about anyways. Accuracy was pretty much the same from both.
This is how myself and the others I was shooting with felt anyways.
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Personally that is what I'd expect davey, I wouldn't base my decision to buy on barrel ports. There was a while around here where people seemed to avoid the ported barrels, but now they seem to have accepted the fact that even if they don't consider the ports helpful, they don't do any harm to the rifle's performance.
In fact as boonerbuck pointed out to me, sometimes it's nice to have a super loud boomer to pull out when one of the more annoying range members decides to intrude on your pastime.
In fact as boonerbuck pointed out to me, sometimes it's nice to have a super loud boomer to pull out when one of the more annoying range members decides to intrude on your pastime.
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cariboo_kid said:Personally that is what I'd expect davey, I wouldn't base my decision to buy on barrel ports. There was a while around here where people seemed to avoid the ported barrels, but now they seem to have accepted the fact that even if they don't consider the ports helpful, they don't do any harm to the rifle's performance.
In fact as boonerbuck pointed out to me, sometimes it's nice to have a super loud boomer to pull out when one of the more annoying range members decides to intrude on your pastime.
After shooting both side by side I wouldnt hesitate to own either. Right now I have the ported version(aquired in a trade). The only reason I would want the non ported version would be for looks more than anything, but really looks dont mean much in the real world.
excellent feedback as always gentlemen thank you. As it turns out I did get one in stainless with the ported bbl and don't mind the look at all. I am really looking forward to this gun as it seems very popular and fun to shoot as well as a practical bush gun for anything on the continent.
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The porting definitely reduces muzzle climb... rack a full tube of full house loads through both the non-ported and ported versions and see for yourself. I did it a couple of times and there is an advantage in speed and accuracy with the ported guide gun... hearing protection is imperative.
cariboo_kid said:
Thats what I said---not a bench gun----very little defense work takes place from the bench. LOL. Hunting is rarely done from a bench also.
Just a thought---nice to hear that big bear breathing his last after the shot. Rather than ringing ears and no clue where he is in the willows
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horshur said:
The barrels on these rifles are so short that the noise level isnt all that different from one version to the other especially to the person shooting the rifle.
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BIGREDD said:
I have many, many times, as well as the guys I shoot with. There is no big noticeable differance between the two. And I am not talking a few rounds, more like hundreads of full house loads.
Anyone wanting to see for themselves, if you live close enough I will be more than welcome to let you give er a whirl.
horshur said:
No doubt GG of any sort are LOUD. That being said, I rarely notice the bang or recoil when killing wee beasties. The animals that have run off after being shot never go far. The .45/70 hits like the fist of an angry god.
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ben hunchak said:
I use Wipeout foaming bore cleaner in all my rifles, and it cleans the ports out as well. Not an issue at all. My 444P Outfitter (guide gun but in 444) is also very comfortable to shoot with stiff loads behind a 340 grain cast bullet.
Given the choice to buy again, I'd still choose the ported model.
I have both at present time,I liked the ported one in the begining and then with a few shots without hearing protection ive switched to the non ported you can figure it out I was tone deaf for about two weeks,ive since bought an 1895ss and the cowboy to keep the muzzle blast away from my ears,I could actually feel the precusion on the ported one,I shoot 400 gr speers with 55.5 grains of h322for 1800 ft \sec,DO NOT LOAD THESE YOURSELF WITH OUT WORKING UP YOUR LOADS AS THESE WERE PUBLISHED MAXIMUMS AND ARE SAFE IN MY GUNS THEY ARE HEFTY LOADS AND THE NEW MANUALS HAVE DECREASED THE GRAINS AS THE H322 looks like they have changed the powder the new powder is a different colour more yellow than charcoal.
