Poser for you guys - 1000 yard rifle with a twist

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OK here goes...

I'm looking to buy a 1000 yard competative rifle but the competition rules specify the following.

1. Muzzle diameter cannot be 0.75" or over (otherwise you're in the benchrest category)

2. Must be able to shoot factory ammunition (so no wildcats).

3. I do not want any belted magnums. I'm going to try and do this using .244" (6mm) to .308" (7.62mm) diameter projectiles.

Personally I've always liked the 6.5 Swede but thats beside the point.

QUESTION: Is there a factory rifle out there that meets these specifications or am I going to have to build it?
 
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Would be using a scope
Right now I'm just talking about the rifle and for the sake of simplicity I'll worry about the optics later.
 
I got a Sportco barrel/Action for sale in .308win and a Lee Enfield Target/F-class rifle in .223!!!

You can put a scope on both of me. Let me know if you want pics!!!!

Thanks
 
It looks like your stuck with a plane jane 308, I can't think of another caliber that has factory ammo available for long range comp's. The 168gr factory ammo will get you out there but having at least a 26" barrel will help. Finding one with less than a 3/4" muzzle might be a problem.
bigbull
 
As far as factory rifles, you are very limited due in large part to barrel twist. You can forget about the 6mm as no one makes a twist fast enough. The 223 is also out as you have very limited wind bucking capabilities compared to the other cals you will be competing with. Same goes for the 308, although if you are lucky, you might be able to get the 155gr amax or lapua to elevated velocities. That will work.

This means a 12FV savage could work in either 223 or 308. I believe that the 112FV comes in 300WM and 7RM which are much better choices.

The best are the 6.5 and 7mm. Factory ammo choices then limit you tremendously. Nothing is accurate enough (except a few 308 loads). I shoot a 7RM that is wonderfully accurate. Probably the most common factory cal that has both twist and performance to work.

Not sure why you don't like a belted cartridge. I use the lee collet neck sizer and have no issue using belted brass. The 7RM gives way better ballistics then a 300WM could offer. A 280 would also work but never in a factory heavy barrel and factory ammo is for hunting.

I have two other projects that I am developing - 7Mystic and 6.5 Mystic. I will eventually be selling my 7RM. very low rd count (about 200rds). PM me if interested in the build specs. Krieger barrel, etc, etc, etc.

Jerry
 
This is for the Burns Lake 1000 yard shoot
Three classes as I recall

Hunter class requires factory ammo and a 10.5lb rifle with no more than a 0.75" muzzle
(Most shooters are using hunting rifles with various custom work)

Sporter Heavy Barrel 10.5lb to 17lbs and handloads and/or wildcats are allowed

Unlimited (In these classes you will find everything from over the counter to all custom wild cat calibers).

Thanks Jerry I detailed the rules a little more.
I suppose I am not against the use of belted magnum cartridges. I do not enjoy brain cracking recoil and a million grs of powder going up in smoke per shot.
 
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You might want to check on the classes again. They were running classes similar to the main US groups. The runs are based on weight and a few barrel constraints.

Some classes may have the contour of a factory rifle but allow for full build ups. A true factory rifle is greatly handicapped in that type of class. some might want a factory stamped barrel.

Of course, things can change. Check first before building/buying something that doesn't fit.

Jerry
 
Riflechair said:
This is for the Burns Lake 1000 yard shoot
Three classes as I recall

Hunter class requires factory ammo and a 10.5lb rifle with no more than a 0.75" muzzle
(Most shooters are using hunting rifles with various custom work)

Sporter Heavy Barrel 10.5lb to 17lbs and handloads and/or wildcats are allowed

Unlimited (In these classes you will find everything from over the counter to all custom wild cat calibers).

Thanks Jerry I detailed the rules a little more.
I suppose I am not against the use of belted magnum cartridges. I do not enjoy brain cracking recoil and a million grs of powder going up in smoke per shot.
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What is the definition of factory ammo? Can you reload with VLD's.

If its strickly as produced factory... check all the ammo manufacturers for the highest available BC and highest MV within your recoil limits.

If you can use VLDs use a Berger 140gr. 6.5 VLD in 6.5 swede or 180 7 mm VLD in a rem mag. You don't seem to want to endure more recoil than this.

You should give it a good go with either.

NormB
 
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