Possible big changes in BC hunting regulations.

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Here is a copy of an email I just received from the Williams Lake Sportsman's Association. Jacques Drisdelle is the president of the association.


Hello Everyone,



There have been rumours floating around about some restructuring within the Ministry of Environment on the administration of hunting and trapping regions. I have just received the following information I wish to pass on to everyone.



Plans are underway to change the Hunting and Trapping Regions from the eight (8) we have now to three (3) Super Regions. For us here in Region 5 Cariboo-Chilcotin it essentially would mean that we would be absorbed into the Thompson-Okanagan Region. It is not known yet but it is assumed that the Cariboo-Chilcotin will be administered out of Kamloops. I don’t know the details but here are the main changes:

In general the changes are along the lines of what a BCWF committee proposed for the Ministry of Environment. The main changes in administrative boundaries are as follows:

1. Three super regions and seven "Sub-Regions" with all resource ministries aligned.

2. Cariboo-Chilcotin will no longer exist and will be absorbed mainly into the Cariboo-Thompson-Okanagan Sub-Region.

3. The Kootenay Region survives as a Sub-Region with the Kettle-Grandby added (again, for at least the third time in 60 years)

4. Skeena is intact as a Sub-Region except that QCI (now Haida Gwaii) joins Vancouver Island in a super Coast Region.


Although we don’t know how MOE personnel in the Cariboo-Chilcotin feel about this, it might make it easier to get some progressive moose management in place since it is all now one big happy region?

This is what I know thus far and will be meeting with MOE in the coming week to find out more about these changes and what it means to resident hunters.


Jacques Drisdelle
 
It's official ....................


Natural Resource Ministries (NRS) Administrative Boundaries Re-alignment


To help improve business delivery, a new set of administrative boundaries for the province’s five natural resource ministries have been endorsed.

Background
Currently, the provincial natural resource agencies operate under a complex system with more than 11 administrative units. The lack of common boundaries creates unnecessary administrative work for clients who work on initiatives that involve more than one agency. The lack of common administrative boundaries has also been identified as a barrier to effective cross-agency coordination. The five natural resource agencies include: Agriculture and Lands; Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources; Environment; Forests and Range; and the Integrated Land Management Bureau.

The new network of three regional and seven sub-regional boundaries is more logically configured around watersheds, First Nations territories, existing government infrastructure and proximity to government services. The more efficient approach will:
• Allow for better co-ordination on multi-agency projects;
• Allow for better co-ordination of consultation requirements with First Nations;
• Enable efficiencies for corporate and administrative support services;
• Simplify information management; and
• Be easier for stakeholders to access government services.

All natural resource agencies are expected to transition to the new boundaries by March 31, 2010. During the transition, stakeholders and clients should not experience service disruptions. In many cases, clients involved in a project that requires the participation of more than one agency should start to find that response times improve due to the more effective cross agency coordination.

However, the Ministry of Forests and Range’s North-Coast Forest District will transition to the new boundaries over a longer period due to legislative constraints. While this area will be managed by the natural resource sector as part of the Skeena sub-region, for forestry purposes the North Coast Forest District will legally remain in the Coast Region. This is due to the need for continued compatibility with current legal requirements, such as those within forestry legislation, decision-making delegations, timber pricing/appraisals, and the Softwood Lumber Agreement.


For more information:

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact your local sub-regional management committee chair:
• Haida Gwaii/West Coast: Paul Knowles, (250) 731-3033
• South Coast: Brian Hawrys, (604) 485-0707
• Cariboo-Thompson-Okanagan (See below)
o Thompson-Okanagan Andy Oetter, (250) 828-4413
o Cariboo Ken Vanderburgh, (250) 398-4225
• Kootenay-Boundary: Tony Wideski, (250) 426-1702
• Omineca: Lynda Currie, (250) 996-5241
• Skeena: Tom Bell, (250) 847-7321
• Peace (Northeast): Dale Morgan, (250) 784-1200


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The only thing I can see here is a bigger region and more staff cutbacks .This to me means conservation officer cuts. I personally don't like it.

Grijim
 
The only thing I can see here is a bigger region and more staff cutbacks .This to me means conservation officer cuts. I personally don't like it.

Grijim



I am worried about this too.

The provincial government is in one hell of a financial hole and is cutting and slashing across the board. If the provincial civil service was bloated with excess staff I would support reductions in staffing but as it stands they have been cut to the bone the last few years and there is very little fat to cut.

This ranks right up there to when they limited the CO's to only a few days a week in the field in order to save gasoline .............. :rolleyes:
 
No offense meant Boo but is there any hard evidence of this? I cannot find anything about this on any BC Government websites. I know it states it comes into effect March 31st but I cant believe that they are going to just drop this bombshell all at once right on that date. At this time the BC Government websites still show the original regions.
 
When I talked with the Minister this past week, they are trying to get all of the sectors using similar boundaries. Currently Mining, Forestry, Conservation and a host of others use different boundary configurations. Whether these boundaries will also change with the social service, education and health ministries will remain to be seen.
If you want to see infighting just suggest there should only be six education districts . . .
 
This initiative is called the Resource Management Co-ordination Project and has been piloted in the skeena sub region for the last 2 years. It has recently been implimented provincially. The changes you will see in the feild is extended authories of these agencies ie forestry staff assisting lands staff in issuing lands tenures. Parks staff jointly patroling with the COs. Locally some fishermen were surprised to have the COs check thier licences after they snowmobiled into thier fishing hole for 2 hrs. The Cos were dropped off by a helicopter. Putting the COs in the empty seats on a forestry flight is what this inititive is about. Finding ways to have these ministries work together more efficiently is something the tax payers should be all over.
 
I'm sure it's a money grab somehow, but I haven't guessed it yet....

Are they going to join departments and make them do more for less (lower budget)?

or

Are they going to turn CO's, Parks, and MOF guys into bush cops with ticket books, so they can issue tickets for whatever they want to....yep, that would make money.

I'll bet on both just to be safe
 
Right now each ministry is obligated to consult with the First Nations for tenures that government issues. Some activities require authorizations from more than 1 ministry. Imagine government consulting with the First Nations once and for all the ministries.
This will save a lot of time for any investor in the natural resources feild and keep the First nation from being overwhelmed with requests to consult for any impacts to aboriginal rights.

As for the bush cop thing, Forestry and Parks staff have had the authority to issue tickets for years that is not really new.
 
.. Of greater concern for those that Hunt and Fish in BC, is the current trend of the Liberal Govt. to "hand over" land control and access, without due Court Process even, to "First Nations" . ..... And then there's the question of "Trophy Hunting", any further restrictions there will have an effect on ALL Hunters in BC. A "Knee Jerk" reaction to Environmentalists protests, which in general, are NOT based on Scientific Evidence supporting their Claims. ..... The only real voice representing BC Hunters and Fishermen, and yes, even those that simply enjoy the Outdoors, seems to be the BCD. ..... David K
 
I'm sure it's a money grab somehow, but I haven't guessed it yet....

The savings is now the MOE has less Regional Offices to maintain. The bonus to us as hunters is that we should now see more harmonized openings between the Regions (less regional Managers with differing game management strategies). I believe the hunting Regions as they appear in the regs will stay the same as this change is "behind the scenes", to the resource management regions.

Oh, and Jacques Drisdelle is also the BCWF Region 5 President, not just the Head of the WLSA.
 
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