Possible PCMR Winchester Find

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While shopping at my favourite local hunting shop (Stillwater Sports in Ladner, BC) I ran across a used Winchester 1894 that I just had to have. I suspected it was something special, but I now think it might be an all original PCMR rifle.

Given that I'm sure there are some PCMR aficionados on CGN, can anyone help me determine if this is indeed legit? It seems to me that the sling might be the original given some of the pics I've seen online, but I'm not sure.

Many thanks for your help in solving this mystery. --b

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According to my google search one came up with the serial number 1335233 and indicated that all PCMR rifles were around that particular serial number. My guess is that you scored a good one - congrats.
 
Yeah, it's a PCMR 94 Win... don't think I've seen one with the C broad arrow stamp that forward on the forestock, though.

Looks like yours has seen lots of carry use, too.

Always a nice score! :cool:

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Thanks for the photos OP.
It is a PCMR Carbine for sure; it has all the correct markings and in the right serial number range. The original sling and the added on sling swivels are correct as well. Nice find!! Congrats.
 
Midnight Rider said:
Nice find ; was the store aware of the rifle's potential past history when they sold it ?
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I don't think so. It had just come in with a group of rifles and was just leaning up against a back wall.

I've always had a hankering for an old 1894 but didn't know much about them. Asked to have a look at it, saw it was well worn and made a fair offer for a 40s 1894. Thought the arsenal stamps might mean something interesting but the front sling band honestly struck me as a shoddy home job--only once I got home did I realize that's original!
 
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Nice find, the forward sling band always looks like an add on - largely because it is, but they are one of the first things to go missing in my experience. Might want to check the rest of the guns that came in - P17's and Marlins were also issued to PCMR.
 
zxcv said:
I don't think so. It had just come in with a group of rifles and was just leaning up against a back wall.

I've always had a hankering for an old 1894 but didn't know much about them. Asked to have a look at it, saw it was well worn and made a fair offer for a 40s 1894. Thought the arsenal stamps might mean something interesting but the front sling band honestly struck me as a shoddy home job--only once I got home did I realize that's original!
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Good score! :cool:

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Nice rifle, I'd say legit for sure.
Hard to believe a gun store in the LML wouldn't know a PCMR rifle when they saw one.

Sorry to hijack your thread OP but - does anyone know if there is buttstock sling swivel that would work in place of a missing original? I think the originals were Ross swivels were they not?
 
machman said:
I was just checking out Bert Hartman’s PCMR survey(2018 edition), and yours isn’t listed. Possibly a previously undiscovered one!
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Is the SN is the range of the known rifles? From what little I know is, the Canadian govt bought a quantity of bone stock rifles from Winchester. I don't know if they were shelf stock at the warehouse or scooped up from gun stores. Either way, from an inventory point of view, the plant would have made and sold stock. They would have a general cut off date by 1939-40 of shipped merchandise. Serial number after that year or very close would be candidates for PMCR bulk acquisition. Serial numbers from two or three years before then would not likely be in the PMCR range.
 
Let me try a smaller screenshot of the Hartman list. It definitely IS in the range.
1334733 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Ranger Stanley Ownes, Co. 18
1334734 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Type-7 D&T UT Co. 52 Smithers BC
1334738 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42
1334758 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Walter Watts, 29th Co. Det. #8 Chilliwack City, East
1334761 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Sgt. J.M. Reece, 29th Co. Det. #1 Sardis
1334763 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Cpl. Frederick George Willis, K504435 Co. 2 Hollyburn Rangers
1334780 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Gordon M. Caldwell, 29th Co. Det. #10 Chilliwack City, West
1334792 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Cpl. E.L. Marshall, 29th Co. Det. #7 Ryder Lake
1334813 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Rgr. H.C. List, 29th Co. Det. #5 Cheam
1334819 94 30 W.C.F. Milled No Serrated 5/26/42 Rgr. I.S. Finley, 29th Co. Det. #5 Cheam
1334871 94 30
 
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