possible stolen action on rifle on EE

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what can or should be done with the possible stolen action now on a complete
rifle on the EE forum, just backed out of a deal as the serial number was not done
at the manufacture. Just asking as this seems wrong.

your most reasoned reply please

Jeff
 
I would contact the mods and investigate. If it does appear something shady is going on I'd report it to the authorities. None of us here want to (or should want to) buy stolen, counter-fit or shady items off the EE.

Sometimes it's an honest mistake, sometimes it's not what you think and I'd say sometimes there are shady dudes out there. We need to be vigilant and that starts with taking action.
 
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You feel that the serial number on the receiver is not factory original, and therefore the thing is stolen?

Do you have any proof or evidence?
 
please call the manufacture and confirm they did not make that serial number and the action was indeed stolen I will pm you with the manufacture

the police will not do anything as this action may have passed through. Ultimate-lemhands before this person owning it

also the seller may not cooperate with details on,where it was purchased and thus stop the trail of the allegedly stolen firearm

I spoke to the manufacturer and confirmed the serial number was never used
 
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Jefferson said:
what can or should be done with the possible stolen action now on a complete
rifle on the EE forum, just backed out of a deal as the serial number was not done
at the manufacture. Just asking as this seems wrong.

your most reasoned reply please

Jeff
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At the time the Long Gun Registry was created, any guns not marked with a serial number were required to either be marked, or to have a sticker affixed.

You should not that it is unlawful to tamper with an existing serial number, but it is not an offence to add another one. You can legally engrave whatever you want to on a firearm.
It would be odd, but not illegal, for a gun owner to want to have their own personal serializing system and to add additional markings to their firearms accordingly.

Do you know how to google a picture? You can tell right away that something is fraudulent when the photos a seller uses can be found in multiple unrelated places all over the internet.

Another resource you can use, although it is of limited reliability, is the CPIC Firearms Lookup portal. http://app.cpic-cipc.ca/English/searchformfirearms.cfm

If the serial number has ever been reported stolen, it might appear here.

I wonder how you were able to determine that the serial number was not done at the manufacturer? Did the seller admit this? Did you ask them about it?

People who are bent on fraud and deception to obtain a firearm tend to disappear when you start asking questions. IF the seller is responsive, then ask him about it.

Lastly, people do not often attempt to sell illegal firearms to legal owners. If this guy is a criminal, and is offering a gun, you should know that he is probably more interested in your PAL information then your money. If in fact do you do feel that this seller is not legit, then you should consider what personal information if any you gave to them, and take reasonable to steps to ensure that information can not be used. If you gave him your PAL, it might be worth calling the CFO and asking if they can issue you a new PAL# in order to prevent your old number from being used fraudulently.
 
Jefferson said:
please call the manufacture and confirm they did not make that serial number and the action was indeed stolen I will pm you with the manufacture

the police will not do anything as this action may have passed through. Ultimate-lemhands before this person owning it

also the seller may not cooperate with details on,where it was purchased and thus stop the trail of the allegedly stolen firearm

I spoke to the manufacturer and confirmed the serial number was never used
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Lastly, its not your job to investigate suspected crime. Its your job to protect yourself first and foremost, and to help the mods keep the forum clean, which it seems like you have already done.
 
Jefferson said:
please call the manufacture and confirm they did not make that serial number and the action was indeed stolen I will pm you with the manufacture

the police will not do anything as this action may have passed through. Ultimate-lemhands before this person owning it

also the seller may not cooperate with details on,where it was purchased and thus stop the trail of the allegedly stolen firearm

I spoke to the manufacturer and confirmed the serial number was never used
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Ah no.

I have has several stolen firearms returned to me by the police. The serial numbers on receivers are only altered for a reason. To conceal the fact that they have been used in a crime, or stolen.

Even if the SN has been altered LE may be able to ascertain the true SN and reported stolen long gun serial numbers are kept in the RCMP database.I personally have had long guns recoved by the RCMP and returned.

I will concede. That the RCMP and other police forces are somewhat "lazy or indifferent" to speedy or serious investigative work in this area of crime.
 
I have spoken to the manufactures and confirmed my questions that it was shall we say
stolen

and forwarded some info to the moderators,

the seller probably did not know the story behind this action and it’s serial number or origin that is all I can say for now as don’t want to harm the op as he may be unaware that he is or has a stolen receivor
 
what a wierd thread

but I guess we have lots of gun owners that weren't gun owners back when the serial number stickers or engravings became mandatory.
I owned several firearms that were given serial number stickers that did not match any numbers on the firearms they went on. Little oval black sticker with white letters..... they liked to fall off over time so I used an electro pencil and very carefully and tastefully engraved them in an appropriate spot.
If I still had one of those engraved serial number rifles, with a serial number not matching the manufacturers number...... and I listed it on the EE...... according to the OP an investigation would need to be launched LOL

it's good to find and expose fraud but this seems like a paranoid meandering to me.
 
45ACPKING said:
what a wierd thread

but I guess we have lots of gun owners that weren't gun owners back when the serial number stickers or engravings became mandatory.
I owned several firearms that were given serial number stickers that did not match any numbers on the firearms they went on. Little oval black sticker with white letters..... they liked to fall off over time so I used an electro pencil and very carefully and tastefully engraved them in an appropriate spot.
If I still had one of those engraved serial number rifles, with a serial number not matching the manufacturers number...... and I listed it on the EE...... according to the OP an investigation would need to be launched LOL

it's good to find and expose fraud but this seems like a paranoid meandering to me.
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All I can say is that it is not paranoid meandering. The rifle in question is known to me along with the background details as to where it came from. CGN has been advised of the details.
 
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