Powder Actuated Tool blanks

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I'm not quite sure where to put this thread, but this is probably the closest place.

Anyway, I'm trying to do a bit of research on PAT blanks, as well as any other industrial type of ammo such as line throwing blanks, kiln shotshells, etc.
So far, I have found a small piece on Wiki about tool blanks, but not much more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder-actuated_tool

Does anyone have any good links that give sizes, colour codes, etc?

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In my cartridge collection, I also have some marked Cable Cutter, and Cattle Killer (for the thing that bonks a cow between the eyes), as well as a harpoon blank for whaling.
I'm trying to sort out all the "cartridges" that don't fit neatly into the "ammunition" category.

Any help is welcome:)
 
The color codes and relative strengths of the rimfire loads have always been printed on the packaging, when I see them at the hardware store. That was the case on the .22 and .27 blanks that I have seem.

Nothing online?

Winchester used to make some monster blanks on 8 gauge/ 10 gauge shells, IIRC, used in 'kiln guns', which were used to blow out blockages in the pouring spout of a cupola.
They made a bunch of line thrower and industrial blanks on the 45-70 case as well.
Heck, Winchester used to make a whole lot of stuff, which is a whole different subject, but there are a pile of books out there that cover their 'other' product lines, including the industrial blanks.

Cheers
Trev
 
Were the .303 blanks used in some of the old Hydro line circuit breakers Dominion made? I never thought to check the headstamp on the only one ( Manitoba Hydro) that I ever got a look at. kayceel
 
There also was a powder charge similar to a shotgun blank used to start some old tractors. The Lantz was one if I recall correctly.
 
I have several boxes of .38 special blanks for some sort of Ramset brand gun. They have red and yellow colour codes. The box says .38 special but the headstamp says .37. Bought a bunch of them at a yard sale years ago.
Al
 
IIRC I read a bunch of info on the industrial side of Winchesters product lines in a book on Winchester Collectibles, exact name not recalled.
IIRC I was reading it at a Chapters store while my wife was shopping. It was in the antiques and collectibles section.
Better reading than the average Chapters fare. :)

A show called The Prairie Farm Report, did a segment on old tractors, and showed a guy starting a big old tractor with a cartridge. Unscrew the cap, install the cartridge, replace, whack firing pin with hammer (ea:1, Ball Peen).

I have only heard of the cartridges for starting piston aircraft engines, never seen one in use. Watched a B-52 do a cartridge start on all it's engines on the flight line in Moose Jaw, though. The cartridges for that looked about the same size as a rocket motor, which is essentially what the were. Once they fired, the blast was routed across the turbine vanes to start the engine spooling up to speeds where the ignitors could get the fuel lit and become self sustaining. Lots of nice toxic smoke! :)

Cheers
Trev
 
Check the IAA forum, the subject has come up numerous times, and just in the last month as well, including links and some downloads. Winchester/Olin still has videos on its site for Kiln guns, and were one of a number of companies that made them.
 
Remington still makes kiln guns (the "masterblaster" if you can believe it) and a line of 8 guage shells for them- in a 3oz slug and some sort of massive shot load
 
Field Marshall tractors were started with a "blank" about the size of a 12 ga. You see them at tractor shows, etc.
 
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