I really wish that skullhead or whoever would delete reference to the powder burn rate chart, it is inaccurate, only the manufacturer's products seem to be in the proper order, and I believe that newbies to reloading would be better served by using a proper reloading manual, and not be tempted to use burn rate charts to add a few grains because its listed as a tad slower, especially when the info is inaccurate!! The manufacturer listed their powders and then just lumped in all the others anywhere.