Precision Rifle Series Explodes

[Tomochan]

I've been asking some landowners near me who are also shooters and they ( like me to be honest ) are concerned about issues of legal liability/insurance. I don't think the issues are insurmountable but they are definitely there.

 

[Tcon]

I've been asking some landowners near me who are also shooters and they ( like me to be honest ) are concerned about issues of legal liability/insurance. I don't think the issues are insurmountable but they are definitely there.

I know the NFA offers insurance to local ranges, maybe it would be worth while talking to them about providing shoot insurance?

 

[kombayotch]

Komboyatch, your post got me thinking. What is the average engagement distance for a sniper/precision marksmen? I thought I read somewhere over of SH that one guys was around 485 yards but I think it was a napkin calculation on the internet.

I know an average can be misleading but it would still be good to know. I also would think this would vary by the type of battle going on. Wide open spaces would mean longer distances while city based battles would be shorter obviously.

I am thinking that your idea of "speed of execution" might be more important than long distance accuracy. The guys that are shooting 2,000+ yards are certainly impressive, especially those that occur on the battlefield, but I think those shots are probably on the less common side of things. I saw a video today of a 3,500+ yard shot that was walked onto target (the first shot was 50 feet off target). Again, super impressive to hit those distances but is that really a practical skill? I guess this is more just a food for thought type thing...

US matches go out to 1400 yards at most, and there are only a few of those really long distance stages in most matches. The speed of execution is more important. Give someone a LRF, a ton of time to build a good stable position, to figure out the wind and to set-up the shot, and sure, many will make the shot with relative ease. Make them take shots at multiple odd distances in a short time, from odd positions... that takes a lot more skill. If the next person can be just as accurate and make the shots just as accurately in a shorter time, or be able to make more accurate shots in a given time, they are even more skilled.

It's not about super long distances, it's about being able to adapt to situations that aren't exactly like things you've practiced beforehand. It's about learning skills vs. just memorizing solutions to specific problems. Think of how math is taught in school. The only time you memorize solutions to specific problems is when learning the basic, things like addition and multiplication tables. We don't teach advanced math by having students do the exact same test over and over again. You're taught how to solve different types of problem. When you're given a test, it isn't the exact same test every time, with the exactly the same problems with the exactly the same numbers in them. Every test is different. If the tests were always the same, people would just memorize the answers, and not learn how to actually solve the problems. That is what happens with our matches. A very good example of this is the movers.

The US matches are like SATs. They're a test of everything you've learned, and you're compete against your peers under a time constraint. It isn't enough to just answer questions correctly, answering the questions more quickly will get you a higher score. And the test includes very advanced things that only the best will be able to tackle.