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If I was to have a precision gun built but could use it for hunting as well
would a .257 weathby mag or a 7mm short mag make sense? Can a Remington 700 sps action be used? Would an sps action in 7mm mag be used only for these calibers? I like the vanguard and tikka stock as I like the smaller grip. I dont like any of the remingtons including the sendero stock. Can anyone inform me what shock would be similar in grip to a vanguard or a t3 lite?
 
A 7mm WSM can be used, but it will move you around a bunch more then the dedicated precision guns will. Take a look at the links below. The first one is more field then target, the second one the other way around.

h ttp://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html
h ttp://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek071.html
 
Depends on what you want to do with your "precision" rig and the distances you want to shoot. Magnums are not allowed in F-Class competition and their appetite for barrels is ravenous, therefore a few days at the range blowing off 100 rounds or so, and you have eaten a significant percentage of their barrel life.

Having said that, the 7WSM, particularly if it has been made from 300 WSM brass (Longer neck that way), is a good long distance precision round. No magnum I can think of (with the exception of the 222) makes a particularly good short range precision gun... way overkill and not inherently as accurate as the smaller, longer, high-BC match calibers.

As for actions, the majority of "magnum" calibers use a standard bolt face that will allow you to use any cartridge that will fit the bolt face, and of course the action must be long enough for the length of case. Remington Actions are a nice choice because you can have a bolt made in the required bolt face that will fit your action.
 
As carbonrod stated, the LR shooting community has really caught on with the 7WSM (see the above 2 articles), a big reason being the selection of very high BC bullets (well north of .600) such as Berger 180gr VLD and Sierra 175gr MatchKing. That should really help when you reach out to 1000 yards.

I recently acquired a 7WSM from a fellow CGNer, and have been fiddling with 168gr SMK (couldn't find the above two for the moment), and short range accuracy (100-200 yards) is very promising. Gonna take it to thump a moose this weekend, using 140gr Partitions running at ~3300fps. Built on a Rem 700 S/A with a 22.5" barrel and a McMillan stock, this baby is ready to rock! Light and shoulders like a dream!
 
You mentioned "precision rifle that I can hunt with".

You could potentially hunt with any rifle you wish to carry around the bush. As a Precision or Target rifle is generally a heavier stock with a Heavy Palma or Heavy Varmint contour I doubt you would want to be carrying one of these around in the bush for very long. If you are hunting from a stationary position then it would definitely be feasible to get away with a heavier rig.

As most people like to have the lightest gun possible when having to pack it on their shoulders, if this is your case, then I would buy/build a gun specific to those needs.

I am sure there are many rifles out there that are used for both hunting and target, I doubt that the target portion of the shooting would be as competitive as a gun built for that purpose specifically.

There are guns built for "Sporter Class" Benchrest competitions where the rifle must weigh under, I believe, 10lbs (usually a mere fraction of an ounce under this target weight). If you would be comfortable carrying around a 9lb 15.5oz gun around the woods then this may be something to look into.

Don't get me wrong, I would be the first to encourage someone to come out and "run what they brung" in a match just for the shear fun and learning that it offers.

There have many threads on this and the consensus has been: Build a Hunting rig for hunting and build a target rig for competition.

Think of motorcycles: Crotch Rockets are built for road use and Dirt Bikes are built for Off Road, the crotch rocket would be the ####z on the dirt and the dirt bike would be the ####z on the road. You could buy a Dual sport that would be sufficient for both, but would never do as well on the road as the rocket and the same holds true against the dirt bike off-road.
 
Very good points.
CyaN1de said:
You mentioned "precision rifle that I can hunt with".

You could potentially hunt with any rifle you wish to carry around the bush. As a Precision or Target rifle is generally a heavier stock with a Heavy Palma or Heavy Varmint contour I doubt you would want to be carrying one of these around in the bush for very long. If you are hunting from a stationary position then it would definitely be feasible to get away with a heavier rig.

As most people like to have the lightest gun possible when having to pack it on their shoulders, if this is your case, then I would buy/build a gun specific to those needs.

I am sure there are many rifles out there that are used for both hunting and target, I doubt that the target portion of the shooting would be as competitive as a gun built for that purpose specifically.

There are guns built for "Sporter Class" Benchrest competitions where the rifle must weigh under, I believe, 10lbs (usually a mere fraction of an ounce under this target weight). If you would be comfortable carrying around a 9lb 15.5oz gun around the woods then this may be something to look into.

Don't get me wrong, I would be the first to encourage someone to come out and "run what they brung" in a match just for the shear fun and learning that it offers.

There have many threads on this and the consensus has been: Build a Hunting rig for hunting and build a target rig for competition.

Think of motorcycles: Crotch Rockets are built for road use and Dirt Bikes are built for Off Road, the crotch rocket would be the s**tz on the dirt and the dirt bike would be the s**tz on the road. You could buy a Dual sport that would be sufficient for both, but would never do as well on the road as the rocket and the same holds true against the dirt bike off-road.
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Without going overboard like a custom rifle. Any rifle you like and have it glass bedded and pillar bedded and that'll be good enough to give you a good precision hunting rifle. Then a good quality scope.
 
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