Prescribed Antique Pistol with shoulder stock

If it's made before 1898, originally in a caliber not on the "bad list", and not currently chambered in a bad list caliber , then yes even with a shoulder stock it's fine
 
Barrel length and shoulder stock are not relevant.

What could be relevant is if it is in fact a rifle because of the stock, then it might also disqualify if not single shot.

You know, you could just tell us the make and model, it would minimize the guessing :p

Is it the Stevens bicycle 'rifle'? ;)
 
serg777 said:
That model has both entries in FRT: restricted and antique.
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Dependant on the year of manufacture. I could be wrong, but im sure smith and wesson keeps serial number records including date of manufacture. I know for sure colt does. That's all you would need to confirm the difference between antique and restricted, aside from the caliber question of course
 
Unless the gun has a letter from rcmp explicitly confirming the antique status for the given serial - this gun will be in a gray area. If the gun has no registration - that does not imply the antique status.
And no - SW does not have info about manufacturing date vs serial. Frames have been produced till 1899, so that very last year makes the restricted frt entry.
 
serg777 said:
Unless the gun has a letter from rcmp explicitly confirming the antique status for the given serial - this gun will be in a gray area. If the gun has no registration - that does not imply the antique status.
And no - SW does not have info about manufacturing date vs serial. Frames have been produced till 1899, so that very last year makes the restricted frt entry.
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And every serial number before 1898 would therefore be antique.
 
OK, the description is sent to the RCMP with a request for an antique letter.
They decide the gun doesn't qualify as antique.
What happens? Can it be registered as restricted or was that door closed?
Or is it confiscated as unregistered restricted?
 
tiriaq said:
OK, the description is sent to the RCMP with a request for an antique letter.
They decide the gun doesn't qualify as antique.
What happens? Can it be registered as restricted or was that door closed?
Or is it confiscated as unregistered restricted?
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Just a guess but I would say the latter unfortunately. Back when we could still buy handguns then I think you would just have to register it to yourself, assuming you have a valid rpal
 
That was the policy.

I am not optimistic that the current prescribed and deemed antique situation will continue. I cannot believe that this Government is not going to move against these classes of firearms.
So, another thing to consider is that if you get an antique letter, you have in effect registered the pistol. Of course, it could always be claimed that it was subsequently sold. Bold claim to make when they are standing outside your door threatening a search warrant.
 
If the gun is in Canada and it turns out to be prohibited or restricted it can be registered to a business but not to an individual.

If it is outside of Canada, you will be able to simply abandon the application.

You will be able to declare this during the application and that's all I need to say on this subject.

I believe the serial cutoff is known for this model so you should be able to figure out if you have a reasonable chance of success.
 
Roy Jinks, the historian for S&W, has stated that ALL New Model 3 frames were manufactured by 1898, but the guns were catalogued and shipped into the early 1900's.

It is my understanding that under Canadian law the frame IS the firearm.

Does adding or removing a set of grips, trigger guard, sights, hammer, trigger, etc, or replacing a worn out barrel with an acceptable calibre, change the legal classification of the firearm' if these parts were added after 1897?

Regards,
powderman
 
powderman said:
Roy Jinks, the historian for S&W, has stated that ALL New Model 3 frames were manufactured by 1898, but the guns were catalogued and shipped into the early 1900's.

It is my understanding that under Canadian law the frame IS the firearm.

Does adding or removing a set of grips, trigger guard, sights, hammer, trigger, etc, or replacing a worn out barrel with an acceptable calibre, change the legal classification of the firearm' if these parts were added after 1897?

Regards,
powderman
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No. Look at the webleys for example. A mk1 is antique for sure. Then there's the mk1** that has all mark 6 parts. Still considered antique as the frame is all that matters
 
serg777 said:
Frt does not mention cut off serial. Sw archive does not have it either.

Its upto rcmp to decide on case by case basis. If the serial is in the lower range - you have a chance.
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I’ve never requested one from S&W before but to my knowledge and having seen one, historic letters provide date of initial shipment no? Unless there’s something I don’t know about.
 
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