Price Check--7.65x53 ARGENTINE FMJ

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7.65 mm MAUSER BALL by FABRIQUE NATIONALE HERSTAL
Imported by Century International Arms Ltd Montreal Quebec
Head Stamp FN78

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I have been elected to sell 135+ rounds of this for my buddy, but have no clue as to what it is worth. One box is unopened and the partial box all rounds appear clean without discolouration.
Any idea of the going rate so I can be fair to fellow Nutz and my buddy?

Thanks

jpc
 
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It's probably 7.65x53. I have about 300 rounds of it. A couple of years ago I paid $150 shipped, and shipping was about $35. It's heavy and can't go Canada Post.

The stuff is not a fast mover as hardly anyone shoots an Argentine or Belgian Mauser, and if they do, they likely handload.
 
Since 7.65x53 is actually 53.5 mm long, I assume they rounded up? I'm no expert on ammo, but I have not heard of ammo called 7.65x54.
 
The Argies used 7.65 x 53 chambered mauser rifles. I never understood the 7.65 x 54 designation for their ammo. Here is a possible explanation stolen from another forum: http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/9659

Quote: "I've often wondered why the "modern" Argentine surplus ammo was headstamped 7.65x54 when the original cartridge designation is correct at 7.65x53. The nominal case length is supposed to be 53.4mm I believe, which rounds down to 53 conventional. But supposedly the Argentinians produced these last lots of milsurp ammo to help in the sales of their surplus rifles long after they had standardized on (Nato?) calibers, and left the 7.65 behind.

Somewhere, I read that their case making tooling was out of tolerance from wear, but they didn't want to retool for non-critical surplus sales, so they ran the production with what they had and it came out a bit longer than nominal specification. Perhaps they also didn't want to get it confused with their supplies of true Milspec ammo, and as long as it was a bit oversized they went ahead and rounded up to 54, which would be correct for 53.5mm and above.

Realize that a difference of 0.1mm is a bit less than 0.004" (four thousands of an inch) or about the thickness of a sheet of paper, and you can see it wouldn't take a significant case lengthening to legitimize the new nominclature. Also realize that even SAAMI specifications on cartridge and chamber dimensions allow some tolerance in every dimension, so by exceeding SAAMI specs a mite in the case dimension, the ammo was still likely to fit most chambers, but not the very shortest ones at the bottom of the tolerance. And of course you should also realize that Milspec ammo was never produced to modern commercial SAAMI specs anyway, as they mostly predated SAAMI, and were internalized to work from their own military specifications and tolerances."
 
"...will list it as..." List it as '7.65 Argentine. AKA 7.65 Belgian Mauser'. 7.65 x 53 is correct. Uses a .313" bullet.
You may want to suggest to your buddy to hang on to it. Sooner or later he'll run into somebody with a rifle and a trade will ensue.
Both Norma and Privi Partizan load it. Privi loads a 180 grain SP as well as an FMJ. Runs $15.99US per 20. $39.49US for the Norma.
 
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