Price check on 1903A1 Springfield with Pederson cutout

[IRUNGUNS]

Sorry guys I do not have the serial number or any pictures of this rifles (didnt take any when I was in the US) but I am looking for the typical price ranges (depending on condition of course) for the 1903A1 Springfield with Pederson cutout. I know there are many mil-surp experts on here and any direction would be appeciated.

Steve

 

[JP]

From my experience no real price difference with a regular one, since they are actually rebuilt rifles with the special trigger parts and often the original stock stock also replaced. If you could find an original complete one with the actual Pedersen device, than you would have a very valuable rifle. Since there are only a handful of those still in existence and mostly in Museums chances are very small.

 

[IRUNGUNS]

From my experience no real price difference with a regular one, since they are actually rebuilt rifles with the special trigger parts and often the original stock stock also replaced. If you could find an original complete one with the actual Pedersen device, than you would have a very valuable rifle. Since there are only a handful of those still in existence and mostly in Museums chances are very small.

I understand the rarity of the Peterson device itself and this one does not have one just the cutout. Im looking for an approximate value range that these sell for in Canada cutout or no cutout.

Steve

 

[Eaglelord17]

I would simply price it based on if it was a high number receiver or low number receiver. High number (shootable) somewhere around the 1200$+- mark sounds fairly reasonable (maybe a bit more as they don't seem to be popping up to much anymore). Low number (not shootable) I would say 400-600$+- depending on condition, worst case value it as the sum of the parts.

 

[IRUNGUNS]

I would simply price it based on if it was a high number receiver or low number receiver. High number (shootable) somewhere around the 1200$+- mark sounds fairly reasonable (maybe a bit more as they don't seem to be popping up to much anymore). Low number (not shootable) I would say 400-600$+- depending on condition, worst case value it as the sum of the parts.

Thanks for the info. Whats the issue with the lower serial numbers not being shootable?

Steve

 

[purple]

Thanks for the info. Whats the issue with the lower serial numbers not being shootable?

Steve

Springfield Armory commenced production of M1903s using the double heat treated receivers at approx. s/n 800,000. Anything above this s/n is considered safe and shootable. All M1903 Mk Is were produced with double heat treated receivers.

The low number/high number safety issue has been a topic for debate for nearly 100 yrs. Low number receivers are produced with single heat treated carbon steel and are brittle in comparison to the high numbers. There are a number of documented receiver failures with low number M1903s which led to the US Army taking them out of service. That said, US troops used low number receivers during WW1 and they continued in use during WW2. It's a personal decision on whether or not to shoot a rifle with a low number receiver. I've owned M1903s for nearly 60 yrs and have chosen not to shoot a rifle with a low numbered receiver. If I were to shoot an M1903 with a low number receiver I would make sure that headspace is within parameters and would verify that the receiver was not cracked. It is also important to verify that there is some clearance between the rear safety lug on the bolt and the rear bridge of the receiver otherwise the safety lug will act as a recoil lug and may relieve the required contact between the bolt locking lugs and the locking lug seats at the front of the receiver. I have an ongoing WTB ad in the EE for M1903 receivers which includes Springfield receivers above s/n 800,000 and Rock Island receivers above 285,000.

A M1903 MkI is valued the same as any other Springfield M1903 assuming that condition is the same. A lot of M1903s will be found with badly worn and/or pitted barrels which detracts from their value considerably. A NOS M1903 barrel, when it can be found, will cost $400 or so. A used, but serviceable M1903 barrel will cost around $300. M1903-A3 barrels cost a bit less. While an 03-A3 barrel can be fitted to an M1903, the front sight unit must be replaced with one from an M1903 and the barrel must be turned down over the chamber area in order to install a M1903 rear sight base.

Nice high number Springfields, incl arsenal re-works, seem to be selling for anywhere between $1000 and $1200 nowadays.