Primers / powder and bullets for 30-30

Yeah - I do not know what to say about that price for primers or what to do about it - as per my picture in Post #35, I thought I was getting taken for a ride to pay $3.69 before taxes for 100 - was used to paying about half that - back in the day. But then I used to work for $5 an hour and thought that I was making good money. Do not know what to say - I guess pay or do without - I do not know of other choices, these days?? My parents raised a family of us five kids on much, much less per hour than I was making on my first job underground - is all a perspective, I think?

Put it in context - have you seen the prices on a sleeve of three golf balls these days?? If you golf like I do, will have one or two sleeves into the bush and unrecoverable in 9 holes. Like guns and reloading - is not "inexpensive" these days - does not "save money" unless you can do really intricate accounting shenanigans to justify it.
 
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Yes the 160gn FTX Hornady's #30395's are for the 30-30Win. Be careful you don't grab 160gn FTX Hornady #30396, they look almost the identical, they are for the 308 Marlin Express.

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I keep the #30395's separate & marked from the #30396's.
 
CzyHorse said:
Yes the 160gn FTX Hornady's #30395's are for the 30-30Win. Be careful you don't grab 160gn FTX Hornady #30396, they look almost the identical, they are for the 308 Marlin Express.

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I keep the #30395's separate & marked from the #30396's.
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Damn. The 30396's are what I have! So I guess I'll have to return them for the 30395's then. Thanks for the info. I did tell the guy at the counter it was for 30-30!!
 
The difference in the part numbers is right there for me to read in the Hornady manual, but I did not notice it until the last posts! Appears that the difference is in the location of the cannular groove? Otherwise they appear to be identical. Was never something that I fussed about - to crimp onto a jacketed bullet - but might be a thing to do for a Win 94 or similar with a tube magazine - my lack of experience in that, is showing through... Even the Sierra #2010 30-30 170 grain Flat Nose, on the shelf, have a cannular groove, so must be a thing.
 
Potashminer said:
Dearslayer - your picture in Post #40 appears to be the correct ones for the 30-30 Winchester?
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I thought Czyhorses photo was a copy and paste quote from my original photo. Phew! Sorry about that and thanks for pointing that out. A closer look at his photo clearly shows that he has it marked 308 and at first glance I never noticed.
 
jamesharrison said:
For the ultimate in accuracy in .30-30, try to snag a Remington 788 & use the unobtanium .30 American small primer cases; although they both appear in the dictionary under "hen's teeth"

Oops, looks like I'm guilty of resurrecting a dead horse!

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I would say that's a safe bet. I own 788s in 222 & 308. Helped a friend sight in his daughters 788 carbine in 243.
All of these demonstrated more than acceptable accuracy at the range and in the hunting fields.

Side note: that friend wanted to see when accuracy would go south in the 243, repeat fire no break.
It took nine rounds as fast as he could fire and reload.
Even then the group at 100 just started getting wider along an imaginary horizontal line. The hot barrel wander was apparent around number six and even then just incremental.
This wider group was still coyote death times 9.
I actually discouraged this test however the results were nonetheless very interesting.
 
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I have an older Marlin lever, a 336A model. It has the 24" barrel and 3/4 magazine.
I have equipped it with the Williams Firesight on front and Foolproof on the rear.
I also mount a low powered scope to really test accuracy potential when developing
loads for it.

The 160 FTX with 3x grains of Leverevolution yields 2400+ fps and shoots under moa
with the scope, around 1.25 moa with the aperture sights. [ I recently had cataract
surgery, and have not tried the aperture sights since then]

The real performer in the Speer 170 grain, flat point using the same powder at 1 grain
less. This will often crowd 3 into ¾ moa or less. Great hunting load, for sure.

Don't sell the 30-30 short. It is a pleasant to shoot, [accurate in many firearms] and
inexpensive to load for. Dave.
 
what kind of distances will you be shooting at? I do hot rounds with Leverevolution, medium rounds with 3031. Biggest difference when I stepped up from reloading pistol to rifle is the brass prep. Need to lube, decap & resize the brass, clean again, measure, trim/debur/chamfer if required. Then you actually do your reloading.

I did work up a soft gallery round with 8gr of bullseye under a 135gr coated Acmet bullet and a Federal large pistol primer. It's plenty accurate out to 50m, doesn't stretch the brass and I only have to neck size before reloading.
 
I've got a 1926 Winchester M 1894 SRC in .30-30 (.30 WCF) that loves cast lead bullets. My choice a 175 grain LRNFP gas checked bullet from OMA Products, pushed by IMR 4227. It will give me 3-1/2" groups at 100 yds with a MV of 1886.4 fps. While everyone is crying about shortages, nobody thinks about using lead bullets these days
 
a lot of folks use 30-30 lever guns for cowboy sillwet. My wife and another friend of hers use a load of 5744 and a 165 gr FN cast slug at around 1700 fps with very good results, very pleasant load for the ladies
 
fingers284 said:
a lot of folks use 30-30 lever guns for cowboy sillwet. My wife and another friend of hers use a load of 5744 and a 165 gr FN cast slug at around 1700 fps with very good results, very pleasant load for the ladies
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Doug, I tried bullets from 4 different casters and found that a gas check improved accuracy immensely.
 
Standard loads 34.5gr of Win 748 /150gr/ Fed +Imperial or Win brass/ CCI or Fed large rifle mag primer. Standard primer if you're stuck ...............170gr/ 32gr of Win 748 same components. Truck loads of deer,moose and black bear over the last 40 years.Lipstick bullets not required.
 
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Standard loads 34.5gr of Win 748 /150gr/ Fed +Imperial or Win brass/ CCI or Fed large rifle mag primer. Standard primer if you're stuck ...............170gr/ 32gr of Win 748 same components. Truck loads of deer,moose and black bear over the last 40 years.Lipstick bullets not required.
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Are you using cast or jacketed?
 
Garand said:
Doug, I tried bullets from 4 different casters and found that a gas check improved accuracy immensely.
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The ladies use two different rifles and Maria's 94 likes a powder coated home cast GC shanked cast slug but with no GC the other ladies is a 336 marlin and it prefers that same slugs you do (her chamber is a bit tight for powder coated). We use the same powder & primers but the rifles sure prefer one slug over the other .
 
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