Primers, substituting primers?

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I'm new to reloading and having a difficult time tracking down the exact supplies listed. So for 3 different loads each thing says different primers, all the info is from the Hornady book. For the 7.62x39 123gr its a WLR, for the 45-70 350gr is a Fed210 and for the 325 ftx its WLR. All I was able to get in large rifle primers is CCI 200. Can I use these CCI primers for all 3 of these loads as? I really don't want to have 3-4 packs of different brand large rifle primers kicking around if its not necessary. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible at the moment while I am getting into this. Am reloading with IMR 4198 for all 3 of these bullets, don't plan on switching out components suddenly.
 
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You should be good to go as none of the loads ask for magnum primers. If you really want to fine tune you could try different primers, but for general target/hunting loads I don't see any problem. Just start with minimum loads and work your way up. Have fun.
 
Those primers will work in all rifle ammo you load.

So far as I am concerned, the only time magnum primers are really needed is with ball powder. I have a number of situations where standard primers would not set off the slower ball powders.
 
Get the Lyman handbook and read it!
They tested almost every possible scenario and yes, match and magnum primer can make a 5000 PSI difference!!!
Use the starting load if you change primers and work up the load.

Some powder and calibers need magnum or match primers (I'm thinking of 243 Win and 270 WSM here) to get top velocity and accuracy.

Alex
 
That's the one book I am trying to get, will have to order it or get my friend to pick it up at cabelas on his trip to winnipeg. Currently I have the Hornady seventh ed. and lee second ed. aswell as a hodgdon data booklet that came with my press, I also ordered a 45-70 Loadbook off of ebay which contains data from all powder manufacturers I guess.
Good to know I can go ahead with the primers I got. Just need to figure out how to seat my bullets properly, they are bulging on one side >_<, need to pull the dummys I have and redo, maybe not enough flare.
 
scar2112 said:
That's the one book I am trying to get, will have to order it or get my friend to pick it up at cabelas on his trip to winnipeg. Currently I have the Hornady seventh ed. and lee second ed. aswell as a hodgdon data booklet that came with my press, I also ordered a 45-70 Loadbook off of ebay which contains data from all powder manufacturers I guess.
Good to know I can go ahead with the primers I got. Just need to figure out how to seat my bullets properly, they are bulging on one side >_<, need to pull the dummys I have and redo, maybe not enough flare.
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I know your problem: you need to size the case, the use an neck expander die, seat the bullet and then use a crimping die. Reloading a straight sided cartridge means that you need 3 dies.
It's exactly like reloading 357 Magnum.

For bottle shape cartridge only a 2 die set is needed.

Alex
 
Ganderite said:
Those primers will work in all rifle ammo you load.

So far as I am concerned, the only time magnum primers are really needed is with ball powder. I have a number of situations where standard primers would not set off the slower ball powders.
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I like to use magnum primers in the 30-06 and 9.3x62 as I mostly hunt in cold weather.
 
AlexF said:
I know your problem: you need to size the case, the use an neck expander die, seat the bullet and then use a crimping die. Reloading a straight sided cartridge means that you need 3 dies.
It's exactly like reloading 357 Magnum.

For bottle shape cartridge only a 2 die set is needed.

Alex
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I did notice though that the factory ammo has the same problem but not as bad, you can see a bulge on one side, especially leverevolution. However the bulge on their ammo is all the way around...but still more noticeable on one side of the cartridge. I don't think I had my expander die set up right, will have to expand a tad more then I guess.
 
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