problems with a remington rimfire

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I just picked up a remington model 597 (22 long) with the heavy barrel at my local sports store for a deal of $200 bucks, but it came with a catch,.. apparantly it will only feed on type of remington ammunition with out stress, brought it home and tried a few different types of ammunition through it, and I seemed to experiance less malfunction if there was less than 5 in the clip. had at least one malfuntion per clip. it also seems that the shells in the clip are at way to steep of an angle ( points over the breech hole ) to load properly. this gun has been sent back to remington a few times, they said there was nothing wrong, any one have one of these rifles, experiancing the same issues? I belive its the clip itself, I have shaved the plastic insert in the clip to see if it makes any difference, or at least lowers the bullet a bit more, and i will be borrowing a few new unshot clips to test also. but I havent had the time yet. any help either for the problem or maybe an aftermarket clip would be most apreciated.
 
Any liklyhood of taking it to a gunsmith and asking him to look at it? Might be a simple problem he has seen before and may be easy to fix. Might also be a lemon in which case at least you will know. Sometimes you just gotta ask a pro-thats why we pay them the big bucks.
 
"...will only feed..." Nonsense. You're likely having an issue with the mag spring or follower. There may be a bit of sprue(it's a plastic burr) causing the mag to malfunction. Change the magazine(it's not a clip) and the ammo.
Any .22 requires you to try as many brands of ammo as you can to find the ammo your rifle will both shoot well and cycle the action. The price of said ammo means nothing either.
 
;)It is the magazine , they are famous for it . There are different generations of magazines ,1st:plastic ,2nd:metal ,3rd:metal
1st and 2nd are crap
I beleive the 2nd has a stamp of a "10" on it and the 3rd has a stamp of a "10" with a circle around it .
I would try some new mags though and it is probley your problem ;)

I have one in a 22mag and one in 22lr , Both laminate with heavey barrels. the 22lr has 2 mags , One will barrley work and the othe works fine if I only put 8 rounds in it :)
 
Isn't this where someone is supposed to jump in and say it is because it is a Remington? :) On a serious note, buy a new mag - cheap investment and take both apart and compare the two. Of course confirm if new mag works properly (if not return) - if it doesn't work with new mag take to smith to look over. If it does then modify old mag to make it like the new.
 
I found it always help to have careful look over what is actually happening when you are trying to feed the round. Mag sometimes may sit too low to feed properly or barrel ( very unlikely) may be a little too far in or out. Most likely some imperfection on receiver casting causing mag not to sit all the way in - like I said, have very careful look. No gunsmith ever pays as much attention as gun owner, you will most likely end up paying big bucks to smith for nothing. I have fixed more than one "hopeless" 22 semi's that way.
 
I believe your problem is likely a clip problem take it apart and do a cleaning making sure there are no burs or slag.
See if someone you know has another and try it.
It seems we are having an issue with Mags VS Clips.
After 58 years on this earth a clip or mag are the same get over it.
Saskatchewan redneck here.
Don
 
Make sure you have factory mags with a 10 inside a circle on them. If not, contact Remington and from what I read somewhere (might be only stateside though), they'll send you a replacement. Otherwise, order some from Rimfiresports.
 
It's hopeless, give up now and sell it to me... I'll give you $100 bucks for it!

I have two 597's one in HMR one in .22 The .22 is the newest addition I've never loaded more than 5 rounds in the original magazine as that is the limit at our indoor range, though I have a few after market hi caps from Eagle to try out when I get a chance some weekend.

As to your problem, I'd bet it's 90% the magazine 10% the ammunition. Try some CCI MiniMags load the magasine to five rounds and work from there. Make sure your magazines are 'Third' generation '10' in a circle on the side stamped in steel.

Tons more info (good and bad) over on www. rimfirecentral.com these are very accurate rifles, in my experience, have fun.

FWiW my .22 597 has performed flawlessly so far.
 
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tons of good info, thank you to everyone! Im pretty sure it is the magazine, it is the newer one with the 10 in the circle, and when it sits in the reciver it seems the plate in the magazine is pushing the bullet over the breech, i have shaved the front down to bring it down a bit, but I havent had time to test it. but I am also suspecting the mag, will test it over christmas while I have a couple days off. again thanks for the info, and have a great christmas and new year!
 
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It seems we are having an issue with Mags VS Clips.
After 58 years on this earth a clip or mag are the same get over it.
Saskatchewan redneck here.
Don

Nope..

This is a clip:

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This is a magazine:

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These are both for the same rifle, and, as you can see, they are very different.
 
This is Saskatchewan any kid that grew up here knows that a clip or MAG that works in his gun is great.
We really do not care what the technical name is. If you do thats great however do not be sad when we ignore you and continue on our merry way placing our clip into the 22 lr.
Only requirement are does it hold shells, ammo etc. and does it fit in the gun if so we will continue to use the wording clip or mag as we see fit.
Thanks
Don
 
It is malfunctioning because you are using a clip instead of a magazine. :D:runaway::evil:
I am sorry... cant help it..... :D

Merry Christmas....

BTW congratulations on your new 597
 
This is Saskatchewan any kid that grew up here knows that a clip or MAG that works in his gun is great.
We really do not care what the technical name is. If you do thats great however do not be sad when we ignore you and continue on our merry way placing our clip into the 22 lr.
Only requirement are does it hold shells, ammo etc. and does it fit in the gun if so we will continue to use the wording clip or mag as we see fit.
Thanks
Don

Well, if you would like people to be able to easily understand and help you with problems that you may be having, it would be a good idea to use proper names for parts that DO have specific names.

I'd get a lot of strange looks if I posted a topic here, asking for help cleaning the clip for my Lee Enfield.
 
This is all in jest I have been involved as a dealer, shooter and collector all these years and totally understand all differences between the two.
It must be regional thingie.
They might ask if it is the metal stamping or the box.
Every one I know would be able to help you out with your 3 oh 3.
However I have never seen a clip for a Remington 597 there are none so I just help the fellow out with his magazine
But then I am getting older than dirt and just realized my buddies are too,
These days of political correctness and many people that did not grow up with firearms are a mystery to me.
Do you know out here a Ski Doo may be a Yamaha, Polaris, Artic Cat, or even a Ski Doo.
When I was 7 years old I was giving an old Winchester single shot rifle a box of shells and sent to the gopher patch with the instructions “do not shoot a cow”.
Come to think about it there were cows, calves and the bull in that pasture. I guess I would have to have this instruction clarified today?
Oh wait I would not even be allowed to do this with today gun laws.
I really thankful for the time I grew up in.
Was a Boy Scout when Lord Powell’s teachings were being used? He started the movement to insure the young would not be cannon fodder in the first min’s of service.
It has now changed to the point in Canada where Gun Safety is not even allowed to be induced to the Boys and Girls and a lot of his dreams have gone by the political toilet.
Sorry to rant on.
Don
 
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