Production is getting interesting in Ontario...

omen said:
well, the Haliburton results are available, hmmm... what I suspected was true, couldn't recover from the 2 screwups on the first 2 stages (the little speed shoots) - the rest of it went well, though ;)

Noticed something interesting - on most of the stages, you usually see two out of three of (Kent, Earl, Dan) close together, with the third one a little off (higher or lower) - the groupings change from stage to stage, but the pattern is there for most of them ;)
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I shot a LOT of C's at that match. I was doing something you recommended once, Omen. I was letting it all hang out, and just blazing, going for the best times I could.

If you just look at times.... I was pretty speedy that day* :)





*except getting the damned gun out of the briefcase. Fumbled the mag insertion.
 
Bartledan said:
I was doing something you recommended once, Omen. I was letting it all hang out, and just blazing, going for the best times I could.
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see, and that's working great!! I really do believe that should be your primary strategy for Kingston, just go as fast as you can pull/reset the trigger,and the speed will make up for the loss of few points!!!
 
ipsc1 said:
points are more important, you should go slow, plant yourself for every shot, concentrate on the front sight and take nice deliberate A's. :)
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I think the best idea is probably alternating running really fast, pell mell to get my heart rate up, with standing sideways to target arrays, strong hand, left hand in pocket, while shooting 4 shots per, just to be certain.

Damn.... I'm gonna need more mags!
 
Bartledan said:
I think the best idea is probably alternating running really fast, pell mell to get my heart rate up, with standing sideways to target arrays, strong hand, left hand in pocket, while shooting 4 shots per, just to be certain.

Damn.... I'm gonna need more mags!
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I have a brain fart occasionally and start filling up targets, it usually back fires at some point. I lost about 30pts on a large field stage in Restigouche firing 10 extra rounds, getting 4 hits on the few distance targets, yet missed a target that was about 2 metres from the starting position:rolleyes:
IPSC1 is very correct, go as fast as you can to get the most A's. I have gone fast on certain stages and basically just point shot, which had impressive times, yet misses and penalty targets.
 
Bartledan said:
I think the best idea is probably alternating running really fast, pell mell to get my heart rate up, with standing sideways to target arrays, strong hand, left hand in pocket, while shooting 4 shots per, just to be certain.

Damn.... I'm gonna need more mags!
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I'm sure we can get a collection going for that, after all, it's a worthy cause! ;)
 
maurice said:
I have a brain fart occasionally and start filling up targets, it usually back fires at some point. I lost about 30pts on a large field stage in Restigouche firing 10 extra rounds, getting 4 hits on the few distance targets, yet missed a target that was about 2 metres from the starting position:rolleyes:
IPSC1 is very correct, go as fast as you can to get the most A's. I have gone fast on certain stages and basically just point shot, which had impressive times, yet misses and penalty targets.
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All our goofing around aside, speed and accuracy are similarly important... you can't sacrifice one to the other, and deciding which is more critically important must be decided on a stage by stage basis.

The shorter the stage, time wise, the more points you can safely sacrifice (within reason!) in order to reduce time. Mathematically, as t -> 0, X/t -> infinity.

In other words, at shorter total time, hit factors increase more due to a given reduction in time "dt" than they do over a longer total time, that is:

Y/(X1-dt) > Y/(X2-dt) iff X2 > X1
 
That's the theory, but in practice, if you go over the magic barrier where you start to lose control over accuracy, all bets are all, as to how many points you'll drop. So, if you could know, ahead of time, that you'll drop 2 A into Cs by going 15% faster, on a 40point stage, that would be worth while. BUT chances are if you push yourself to that level, you won't be able to control the hits, and you could gets Mikes, which kill you on a short stage. On the other hand, if you focus on getting 100% of the points, the worse case scenario is someone will smoke the stage, and you might end up with 85-90%. See stage 2 from Haliburton. I went too fast, and lots track of the front sight, even on the point blank range targets. My time is better than anyone else's from Prod or Std, but the loss of points didn't make it worth while. Or stage 6 - same idea, which one went totally out the window with mostly Cs, Ds, and a Mike... Yuck...
 
omen said:
That's the theory, but in practice, if you go over the magic barrier where you start to lose control over accuracy, all bets are all, as to how many points you'll drop. So, if you could know, ahead of time, that you'll drop 2 A into Cs by going 15% faster, on a 40point stage, that would be worth while. BUT chances are if you push yourself to that level, you won't be able to control the hits, and you could gets Mikes, which kill you on a short stage. On the other hand, if you focus on getting 100% of the points, the worse case scenario is someone will smoke the stage, and you might end up with 85-90%. See stage 2 from Haliburton. I went too fast, and lots track of the front sight, even on the point blank range targets. My time is better than anyone else's from Prod or Std, but the loss of points didn't make it worth while. Or stage 6 - same idea, which one went totally out the window with mostly Cs, Ds, and a Mike... Yuck...
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I hear you. I shoot 100% with my gut, so every stage gets treated the same. When I 'try' to shot all A's, I fall into the 85% area (Peterborough and Grenville). When I 'try' to shoot fast, I wind up in the 91% region (Barrie LII, Haliburton). When I just let my gut do the shooting, and don't think much, I do well-ish. (Russellmania, EOHC, and to a lesser extent, the provincials).

So, I'm gonna get stroked at the nats :) No autopilot friendly stages there, judging from the match copy.
 
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