Prohibited Firearms. What the deal with them?

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I'm applying for my PAL, for the first time.
On the application, they ask "What firearms would like to own in pass 5 years",
the choice are Non-Restricted, Restricted and finally Prohibited. I don't really understand the Prohibited Firearms.I understand the specification that make it a Prohibited Firearms. But Is it legal to own and use on range or not?
If someone can help me out, it would be so grateful.
Thanks
 
Don't worry about it. You cannot get a prohibited endorsement on your PAL. Only folks who already have a prohibited endorsement can renew with prohibited.
 
sup_nawh said:
I think legally you can have a prohibited grandfathered down one time.
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From the RCMP website

You do not need to be grandfathered to acquire a prohibited handgun if:

the handgun was made before 1946, and
the handgun is currently registered in Canada, and
you are the child, grandchild, brother, sister or spouse of the lawful owner.

If you acquire a prohibited handgun in these circumstances, your licence will show 12(7). This means that you can lawfully possess a pre-1946 handgun passed on by a direct relative, but you are not authorized to acquire other prohibited handguns.
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In short, don't worry about it. You (and I) cannot obtain the correct licences to possess Prohibited firearms. That license is only passed down through family. If your mother or father doesn't have it, you can't get it.
 
Noltz said:
In short, don't worry about it. You (and I) cannot obtain the correct licences to possess Prohibited firearms. That license is only passed down through family. If your mother or father doesn't have it, you can't get it.
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The license is NOT passed down. The guns can, if they meet the criterias already quoted above by sillymike. But receiving a prohibited handgun through 12.7 does not let you acquire any other prohibited firearms.
 
So IF you had a valid FAC when firearms legally in your possesion were deemed prohibited via 12.6 (Dec 1998?) AND you registered said firearms at that time, you would then have been "grandfathered" and have the 12.6 designation? Is that how it worked?
 
If people can't legally own Prohibited Firearms. Why do I see people on FirearmsCanada.com selling Prohibited firearms on the internet. I though you can only own them if they been pass down from your family.
 
You have to have been "granted" the grandfather clause... if you don't have it now, you can never have (with the exception of 12.7 from a family member)

It doesn't matter how much training you take. It doesn't matter how much qualification you have.

Canadians are all equals... that is, unless you're talking about firearms. Then some people are more special then others...
 
That check box for prohibited is there if you are acquiring a prohibited firearm, which is possible through inheritance.
 
Actually, your licence does not say 12(7) at all, it will read under possession 12(6), restricted and Non-restricted and only restricted and Non-restricted under aquire. Have seen a couple like this, quite interesting.
Scott
 
m39a2 said:
Actually, your licence does not say 12(7) at all, it will read under possession 12(6), restricted and Non-restricted and only restricted and Non-restricted under aquire. Have seen a couple like this, quite interesting.
Scott
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Interesting indeed, my card says: non-restricted, restricted, 12(7) inherited handgun under both possession and acquisition.
 
sewktbk said:
The license is NOT passed down. The guns can, if they meet the criterias already quoted above by sillymike. But receiving a prohibited handgun through 12.7 does not let you acquire any other prohibited firearms.
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No kidding? I'll admit I've never looked into it directly as it's universally not available to me, but I was under the impression that once you've received a prohib through inheritance or whatever you're granted the license to keep and obtain prohibs. Wow... so only the older folks granted 12.6 from the FAC days can buy prohibs at all, and once those folks hang up the rifles the prohibs must stay in those families. Fawkin' eh...
 
If you don't agree with these rules and think they are discriminatory... you can do to things.

1- Throw a tantrum at home (which won't help)

2- Write to the minister and ask him to provide a rational explanation to the rules.
(no stamp required)

Honourable Vic Toews
Minister of Public Safety
Parliament Hill
Suite 306, Justice Building House of Commons
Ottawa. Ont. K1A 0A6
 
junkdude said:
Interesting indeed, my card says: non-restricted, restricted, 12(7) inherited handgun under both possession and acquisition.
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Well, another version of the "Law" sees light. I've never seen one with the 12(7) on it, I have seen the ones as I described. But it shouldn't say 12(7) under acquisition....weird...as you can't aquire any more except from a relative, specifically defined in the act. This is very interesting. You should try to buy one from a 12(6) or a 12(7) licence holder and see what they say.

Scott
 
Noltz said:
No kidding? I'll admit I've never looked into it directly as it's universally not available to me, but I was under the impression that once you've received a prohib through inheritance or whatever you're granted the license to keep and obtain prohibs. Wow... so only the older folks granted 12.6 from the FAC days can buy prohibs at all, and once those folks hang up the rifles the prohibs must stay in those families. Fawkin' eh...
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It's just another form of confiscation of personal property without compensation. As far as I'm concerned it's a form of discrimination, as it creates a class of privileged citizen that is more equal than the rest of us and allowed to own (or possess temporarily) things based on birthright, rather than standard licensing practices. Typical liberal hooey, they're OK with that privilege stuff.
 
Noltz said:
Wow... so only the older folks granted 12.6 from the FAC days can buy prohibs at all, and once those folks hang up the rifles the prohibs must stay in those families. Fawkin' eh...
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Only the prohibs that can stay in the family (i.e. passed to someone who does not have the 12.6) through inheritance are those that fit into the 12(7) category.

The law was carefully crafted to rid the country of an entire class of firearms, the 12.6 ones that do not qualify for the 12.7 transfer. Once the grandfathered individual dies the firearm will need to be disposed of as there will be nobody to transfer it too; essentially wiping out one group of firearms in a single generation.
 
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