proper eye relief

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mike Crawford

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In most cases I would guess that Length of pull is what makes it hard too get close enough too the scope too see a full field of view with the scope even with off set bases , If a person could get a longer scope that would sit back farther would this do the same job as making the lop shorter. most scopes have a 5 to 5 1/2 inch mounting space between the bells ,, what if you could get a scope that had six or seven inch mounting space and the scope would slide back farther :??? Or would the lop still hamper your shooting position
 
we as we are, short armed guys, like the shortest length of pull possible, and when you add the thickness of the hunting jacket over the t-shirt over the sweat shirt, well, your neck is stretched to the max! 13 and 5/16 is the max and even at than, it's a bit of a stretch! Our scopes are max'd out to the rear when locked down!
 
My experience is most people have a stock slightly too long when wearing a jacket... but that's another problem...

Usually long actions have longer scopes, saving the ultra compact scope for compact actions... and vice versa...,

But shooters are a weird bunch and end up trying just about anything... big, ugly tactical style scopes on their short action hunting rifle, 3 x 9's mounted 90 degrees top left on a top eject 94, a compact 4x with extended rings reversed on a long Model 70.
 
LOP is more than just eye relief. A rifle must fit you to be comfortable, comfortable = accurate. You cannot shoot a rifle that does not fit you as well as one that does. Tailor the rifle to fit you first by shortening/lengthening the stock, and then mount the optics to match your shooting position on the gun.
Some people not only need a shorter length of pull but have a longer neck and require higher rings to be in a comfortable shooting stance. As an example when I was a teenager I did not like shooting my mother's rifle because it had more felt recoil for me than mine. (same weight rifle and caliber but set up for her). Fortunately I am close to the "standard" size and many rifles fit me well off the rack, but I have seen many that if they were mine would need adjustment.

270 totheend
 
Scope manufacturers are making more and more scopes with short tubes and that is a problem. I some cases, you can get reversible rings or extension mounts but most are also higher and/or block the loading/ejection port. As far as LOP is concerned, the rifle has to be comfortable to hold and easy to mount. The stock should be long enough that you don't get whacked in the nose by your thumb. If, when the stock is of a comfortable length, you cannot achieve proper eye-relief, the problem is, indeed, with the scope and mounts. I havea few newer scope which are a problem on most rifles and not usable on some.
 
I prefer to have the ocular even with the cocking piece of a bolt action hunting rifle that fits me, and have to crank the magnification down a touch in order to get a full sight picture, than to set the scope rearward and get busted in the eye. If you do the calculation to determine the recoil velocity of your rifle, its not a particularly intimidating number, but all the same, you can't outrun it. If the LOP is too long, the scope must be set rearward, but that isn't really the right way to go about things.
 
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