Prs course of fire?

Thanks Kombayotch, this will help me a great deal. ....The biggest hurdle I encountered was finding enough range staff to ensure things ran smoothly and to keep shooters focused (it's more of a challenge than one might think to keep the gun talk & story telling for after the event!:rolleyes:)


This is a problem at most, if not all matches I've been to. People "previewing" the stage before their squad is there to shoot, or random people stopping by to even spectators. Talking behind the shooters and RO/volunteers is fustrating. When directions need to be given, heard, and processed, as well as times/points recorded, having electronic muffs picking up all the background chatter can cause a lot of problems. The worst I find is when certain squads are still shooting and others are coming either because they are done, or waiting for range to open for their squad to get on. It always invovles people asking questions about course of fire. Something they will hear if they were to wait.

People have different views on this, but mine is not favourable. It causes confusion, further delays, and problems for some shooters. It could go as far as safety problem.

The only event I went to that didn't have this was a BR shoot. Simply because, like golf, it's considered very rude to talk while others are shooting. I wished more people would follow this same logic and respect the shooter, score keepers, and RO's.

For this reason I've thought that events should have spectators keeping a certain distance, and shooters being located where banter and course of fire cannot be heard and seen as easily. Not only will this benefit the shooters concentration, it'll help promote the smooth operation of the event, and add a new dynamic to stages. As mentioned, with PRS, the course of fire isn't disected 6 ways from Sunday prior to the event, so without real world viewing of barricades and target locations, walking up to a line where people have to actively think about position and target acquisition adds great depth to the shoot. You see in events that many shooters struggle to think and shoot at the same time. This is a skill I think that should be considered in scoring and one for many to practice and master. It's a fun challenge. The added distance from shooting location can also add to the physical aspect I'd love to include in events.

From my experience (mostly 3G), everybody raves about the long, physically demanding stages. Few ranges can accomodate this though. Lethbridge has been great at including usaully one stage that requires a lot of running and a lot of control over your gear. I believe last year was rifle, pistol, shotgun, shotgun slugs, back to shotgun, back to pistol. All while traversing down the stage 200y, over barrels, under barricades, over a bridge, and under camo netting. Good times!

It's also good that you got active involvement from hunters. If shooting sports in Canada are to progress in positive directions, it needs to include all forms of shooters. Part of PRS, listed in the rules, is to help the sport by actively helping others. When score is considered second by most, and fun is considered first, there is no reason most people can't pick up a decent rifle and go have fun.


Few questions for those more familiar with PRS:

1) Due to shorter ranges, semi auto's at many events would not be an issue. At these events are they scored together with the bolt action shooters?
2) Is it ever an issue seeing hits from a smaller caliber rifle at distance (ie, 223 at 400-600y?) I will be doing this in spring, but I've never had the chance to shoot my AR to 500y yet..
3) How much involvement are there in the "tough" classes. Not sure the formal class word, but in some events (MGM?) you have a class for guys/women who carry EVERYTHING on person, at all times, throughout the event. Including food, water, all ammunition, bags, etc. I figure that would be fun for those who want to put themselves through torture and compete to be the elite of the group.
 
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1) At most matches they all get scored together. This includes things like class and division. While they get separated for PRS points and finale qualification, most matches lump all shooters together. You will see that some people in the Tactical Division have 100 PRS points for a match when they finished in the bottom 50%. Good year to shoot a 308 or a 223. A decent shooter has a very good chance of going to the finale and winning some nice stuff even if they aren't near the top in individual matches. Probably even more so for someone shooting in the Production Division...

There are some PRS matches popping up that are semi-auto only. CORE just had one in November called the SASRM.

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2) Generally not at that short of distance. Even 6mm becomes hard to spot hit with at longer ranges when there it a lot of mirage. But, more matches are starting to use flashers on their targets 800 yards and beyond...

3) You would see that more in field matches. Most matches that are held on ranges usually provide water and even lunch. You do have to carry around your gear though, and sometimes have to carry it though the stage.
 
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Wow, these kind of evens are amazing!! I want to participate to an event like this! I sure need to train myself seriously... ;)

Thanks for sharing!

Evil_Dark
 
There are a handful in Alberta, just local club level events. I have heard of practical matches in Edson, Drayton Valley and Calgary (CDTSA). The only problem I'm seeing is a lack of volunteers so the events are limited to around 40 shooters and fill up within the first day of registration
 
For ROs at club level (informal) matches, you can have shooters RO and spot for each other. A couple competent people in each squad who can shoot the match and alternate as ROs will work.

Higher level matches with prize tables should have dedicated, impartial RO staff.
 
Are you willing to drive?

As I investigate PRS shooting, more and more stuff is popping up in the northwest states. The Sniper hide big match is going to be held in Colville WA I believe. If this is correct, the match is like 1 hour south of the border from me.

Watch 6.5Guys youtube vids... they shoot alot in mid eastern WA... Haven't found the range but I am sure that is easy enough to google if you were interested. Can't be more then 3 hours south from the border so it is actually as far as going to Chilliwack to compete.

I have to believe, there are events in Idaho and Montana given the terrain and large population of shooters.

Be nice to have events in Canada but our range rules are a long ways from supporting this style of match so we travel.

Enjoy...

Jerry
 
Yup, Snipershide Cup is in norhtern Washington this year. Rock Lake Rifle Range PRS match is just south of Spokane. Tactical Supply PRS match is also in Washington. All of the PRS matches and club matches are listed on the PRS website. Keep an eye on registration date and time. Matches often fill up within hours of registration opening.

Lots of club level shooting right across the border from BC and Alberta.
https://www.facebook.com/nwprecisionrifle?fref=ts

Getting the paperwork is trivial as is crossing the border.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-to-be-able-to-take-your-rifle(s)-into-the-US

Envy you guys for that. I have to drive to Tennessee, West Virginia and Kentucky to get to the nearest PRS matches that are in driving distance.
 
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yeah, had no idea there was that much activity within a few hours of the border. But then been immersed with F class.

After the 2017 worlds, I will have more time to get serious about this game.

Sounds like WAAAAYYYY too much fun.

Jerry
 
Its interesting to see the businesses in these areas and how I assume they are doing quite well. Action manufactures, stock manufactures, bullet manufactures, and target manufactures are all highly concentrated in the central to NW US.

I'd be interested in going to the sniper hide PRS match even if it was just to watch. State side trips are always fun.
 
Yup, Snipershide Cup is in norhtern Washington this year. Rock Lake Rifle Range PRS match is just south of Spokane. Tactical Supply PRS match is also in Washington. All of the PRS matches and club matches are listed on the PRS website. Keep an eye on registration date and time. Matches often fill up within hours of registration opening.

Lots of club level shooting right across the border from BC and Alberta.
https://www.facebook.com/nwprecisionrifle?fref=ts

Getting the paperwork is trivial as is crossing the border.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-to-be-able-to-take-your-rifle(s)-into-the-US

Envy you guys for that. I have to drive to Tennessee, West Virginia and Kentucky to get to the nearest PRS matches that are in driving distance.

NW precision has a website now.
http://nwprl.com/
 
For ROs at club level (informal) matches, you can have shooters RO and spot for each other. A couple competent people in each squad who can shoot the match and alternate as ROs will work.

Higher level matches with prize tables should have dedicated, impartial RO staff.

But if you RO, don't win the match or Schecter81 will call you a cheater! ;)
 
In the match I am running it will be like what Kombayotch is saying. I highly doubt I will place anyways but I am not including myself in the actual competitors list so if I did do well it wouldn't matter.

As mentioned it would be great to get impartial people to come and help out but it wont be happening at this one.
 
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