Prvi Partizan .30-06 Springfield 150 Grain FMJ

It should work, although PPU tends to run on the hot size. The ammo fits and runs perfectly in my friends 1919A4 (I know, not an M1)
 
84mmcarl-gustav said:
Hi,i want to know if i can use this type of ammo in a m1 garand,and if it will fit in a clip,they look longer than american eagle 30-06 spr,i couldnt not found any info on this cartridge,thank you
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I've looked into this, unless you have adjustable gas plug not safe for garand, risk bending op rod! Beware!
 
As stated above the Prvi ammo runs hot and the M1 Garand was built to operate within a specific pressure range. With extended use of most factory ammunition there is a danger you will bend the op rod.
 
There is no Adjustable gas plug for a Garand, but the factory ammo is loaded like any other factory ammo, that being loaded to a over all length. The over all length is the same as GI Ball.
 
Really, some of you guys need to learn how to do your own homework.

From the Prvi Partizan site:

A-094 - .30-06 Springfield - FMJ 150 gr. Bullet – MV 2905 fps (885 m/s) – ME 2803 ft/lbs (3800 J) Measured from a 24 inch barrel

From the Federal site:

AE3006M1 - .30-06 Springfield - FMJ 150 gr. Bullet – MV 2740 fps – ME 2500 ft/lbs


From Hatcher’s Notebook:

Cal. .30 M2 Ball – FMJ 152 gr. Bullet - MV 2805 fps – ME 2656 ft/lbs

MV = Muzzle Velocity
ME = Muzzle Energy

If anything, the Prvi Partizan load is hotter and the Federal load is under-powered compared to the old .30 M2 Ball load.

It’s interesting to note that the Federal load has a reported muzzle velocity of 2740 fps, when the .30 M2 Ball specifications called for a minimum velocity of 2740 fps at a distance of 78 feet from the muzzle.
 
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While using the velocities as a guideline may be helpful, muzzle velocity doesn't always correlate exactly with pressure.

Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if military ammo was loaded hotter than AE and that PPU was hotter than military.
 
From the link that led to the information from Hatcher's Notebook:

The following are from pages 35-37 of "Hatcher's Notebook", by Julian S Hatcher, Major General, U.S. Army, retired, The Telegraph Press, 1947.

Notice that the .30 Caliber M2 Ball round as standardized by the U.S. military is not the same as the .30-06 Springfield round. They are very similar, but not exactly the same thing.

I think it would be accurate to say that .30-06 Springfield is a more general category, and the .30 Caliber M2 Ball is one more specific specification.

"Hatcher's Notebook" includes ballistic tables showing slight differences between generic Springfield .30-06 and the M2 and armor-piercing M2. One of those tables is reproduced in the next section.
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.30-06 Springfield - FMJ 150 gr. Bullet – MV 2700 fps – ME 2429 ft/lbs

Cal. .30 M2 Ball – FMJ 152 gr. Bullet - MV 2805 fps – ME 2656 ft/lbs

So the Federal civilian .30-06 Springfield load is about where is should be, but it still has less velocity than the standard .30 M2 Ball load.

I suppose it is similar to the differences between the .308 Win/ 7.62x51mm and .223 Rem/ 5.56x45mm.
 
It's not just the muzzle velocity that matters, it is the pressure curve the powder generates. The M2 load uses a medium speed powder like 4895 or 4064, which peaks early and gives lower pressures at the gas port. Modern powders tend to be slower than the 4895/4064 powders, peaking later and producing a higher pressure at the port. This beats up the rifle and can bend op rods over time.


mcpherson284 said:
There is no Adjustable gas plug for a Garand,
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There certainly is. I have a Schuster gas plug kit for my Garand and CGN member Pocketfisherman sells a home made version of either the McCann or Schuster plug setup (I'm not sure which one he copies).


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
There certainly is. I have a Schuster gas plug kit for my Garand and CGN member Pocketfisherman sells a home made version of either the McCann or Schuster plug setup (I'm not sure which one he copies).


Mark
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I stand corrected. I only look at original part... so, for an all original Garand, there are no adjustable gas plus, after market is obviously something different.
 
mmattockx is right about the powders. There are a few threads on here about "Reloading" for the M-1 Garand and M-14.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...Powder-recommendations-for-165-gr-30-06-loads

Thats one conversation that I know of. Using the commonly spoken IMR 4064, IMR 4895, and IMR 3031, you can compare those powders on the Burn Rate Charts and you will see that there are a number of powders that can be safely used as long as you keep the loads with in military spec. If you try to up the velocity to put your bullets into orbit, your bolt, front and rear sight and other parts of your Garand (and maybe even bits of you) may reach orbit along with the bullet.
 
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found this on the internet. this is some prvi made specific 30-06 garand ammo similar to the american eagle garand ammo. anyone know if this is imported?

 
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