pump air pistols
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I killed tons of grouse and many rabbits with a Crosman pump .22 cal. (I forget the model number). I still have one of the camper models with the interchangeable stock and grips. Use oil sparingly but regularly, and they will last you for years and years. Use the best pellets you can find, and have fun.
For many years, I used mine on Thanksgiving day to go out and get grouse for my Thanksgiving supper. We would be camping out at our moose hunting area, and I would get several ruffed and/or spruce hens. I would also pick wild cranberries for cranberry sauce, and, most years, I could get wild mushrooms. made a feast of it every time.
For many years, I used mine on Thanksgiving day to go out and get grouse for my Thanksgiving supper. We would be camping out at our moose hunting area, and I would get several ruffed and/or spruce hens. I would also pick wild cranberries for cranberry sauce, and, most years, I could get wild mushrooms. made a feast of it every time.
That's pretty much exactly what I have in mind- somehting I can put into a backpack when I take the dog for a run.
where do I find such an animal?
I noticed that Can. Tire has a current version of the .177 Classic, but they list it as 495 FPS. Did they actually modify to limit velocity, or are they just listing it low to avoid legal issues?
Yes, the Canadian version has a bleed hole in the valve as well as the transfer port restricted. Although its advertised at 495fps, most likely it will shoot about 375 fps out of box. Will need to be modified to shoot beyond that.
If you get the 1377, and I would
you can get a 22 barrel from a canadian airgun store ( I am not sure if I can mention the name) and drop it straight in. Because you are using a heavier projectile you can mod the valve and get the gun to shoot at the max legal velocity of 495 fps. These guns when unrestricted like in the US are much faster so be careful that you don't make your airgun into an airgun requiring a licence.
you can get a 22 barrel from a canadian airgun store ( I am not sure if I can mention the name) and drop it straight in. Because you are using a heavier projectile you can mod the valve and get the gun to shoot at the max legal velocity of 495 fps. These guns when unrestricted like in the US are much faster so be careful that you don't make your airgun into an airgun requiring a licence.
If I were you I'd look for a 2289 Backpacker. It's similar to the American Classic/1377 but it has a longer barrel, is 22 cal and you can switch between a skeleton rifle stock and a pistol grip. Try Scopes and Ammo if you're in Eastern Canada or D&L Airgun if you're in Western Canada.
The Crosman pumpers are indeed handicapped with a bleed hole in Canada. The aluminum valves can be tapped and plugged with a screw but I just wiped my bleed hole with rubbing alcohol and stuck some JB Weld in there. It's still going strong about 1000 shots later and gets about 480 fps with about 10 pumps which is closer to what the gun is advertised to do.
You can also look up the Canadian Airgun Forum and try the for sale section. There might be a modded one just the way you want it cheaper than a new one from a store.
The Crosman pumpers are indeed handicapped with a bleed hole in Canada. The aluminum valves can be tapped and plugged with a screw but I just wiped my bleed hole with rubbing alcohol and stuck some JB Weld in there. It's still going strong about 1000 shots later and gets about 480 fps with about 10 pumps which is closer to what the gun is advertised to do.
You can also look up the Canadian Airgun Forum and try the for sale section. There might be a modded one just the way you want it cheaper than a new one from a store.
HobbyShooter
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Just a warning: airgun law have changed some years ago, the 500 fps limit
is still valid but a 4.2 fpe limit has been added. So a 22 cal air pistol at 500 fps
generates over 7.0 fpe making it a restricted handgun if it has a barrel longer
than four inches, or a prohibited handgun if it has a barrel shorter than
four inches.
Be aware!
You can read the law here:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm
Jocelyn.
is still valid but a 4.2 fpe limit has been added. So a 22 cal air pistol at 500 fps
generates over 7.0 fpe making it a restricted handgun if it has a barrel longer
than four inches, or a prohibited handgun if it has a barrel shorter than
four inches.
Be aware!
You can read the law here:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm
Jocelyn.
that law was added as a result
of the introduction of very light pellets ino the marketplace. As long as you stay below 500 fps you are good because the law is 500fps AND more than 4.2 fpe. I copied the section for those that are interested.
These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 meters or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The “muzzle velocity” is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The “muzzle energy” is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.
of the introduction of very light pellets ino the marketplace. As long as you stay below 500 fps you are good because the law is 500fps AND more than 4.2 fpe. I copied the section for those that are interested.
These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 meters or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The “muzzle velocity” is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The “muzzle energy” is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.
Funny the HW45 in .22 is listed at 6 lbs and under 500 fps and you don't need a PAL to buy it? A lot of times law twisters/enforcers use light pellets that the public doesn't readily have access to to boost velocities and blacklist something they don't like the looks of.Theoretically you could load a round lead/platic ball and no pistols would pass.They should be using standard weight pellets like 14.3 gr in .22 and 7.9 in .177 or better yet take pellet guns off the firearms list totally...............Harold
HobbyShooter
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- Eastern Québec (Matapédia valley)
As there are so many pelet weights on the market the logical way to go
would be having an FPE limit and dropping the velocity from the law.
BTW 4.2 FPE is realy low, for exemple Great Britain limit is 12.0 FPE before
an airgun need to be registred.
Jocelyn.
would be having an FPE limit and dropping the velocity from the law.
BTW 4.2 FPE is realy low, for exemple Great Britain limit is 12.0 FPE before
an airgun need to be registred.
Jocelyn.
