Push feed vs controlled feed

Push vs controlled

  • Push

    Votes: 73 30.5%
  • Controlled

    Votes: 130 54.4%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 36 15.1%

  • Total voters
    239
So, disregarding action type/manufacture/quality/anything but specifically push vs controlled... Is there any advantage that push feed has that controlled feed doesn't?

My opinion is that a rifle that is mostly for the bench is nice if you can just drop a round in and close the action. I also like to check neck sized cases in their chamber before I add components. This is easier with push feed rifles. I also like to chamber hunting rounds for function before I actually hunt with them, even if I use factory ammo. This maybe a bit of overkill but it's cheap insurance. Loaded cartridges are easy to check in either type of action, it's just the empty brass that's tougher in CRF rifles.
 
My opinion is that a rifle that is mostly for the bench is nice if you can just drop a round in and close the action. I also like to check neck sized cases in their chamber before I add components. This is easier with push feed rifles. I also like to chamber hunting rounds for function before I actually hunt with them, even if I use factory ammo. This maybe a bit of overkill but it's cheap insurance. Loaded cartridges are easy to check in either type of action, it's just the empty brass that's tougher in CRF rifles.

Its actually easier to "chamber check" with controlled feed vs push feed, as there's no spring loaded ejector pushing against the case, trying to toss it sideways
 
Its actually easier to "chamber check" with controlled feed vs push feed, as there's no spring loaded ejector pushing against the case, trying to toss it sideways

I guess my method has been to put the case pretty well into the chamber with the push feed. Then just close it up. The CRF rifle needs to have the case placed under the extractor and guided into the chamber. Just seems more fiddling to me, but everybody is different.
 
If by single load you mean putting a cartridge in the magazine and then closing the bolt my rifle is fine. But checking an empty sized case for chamber fit seems to hang up before reaching the chamber, so I normally guide the empty in. Maybe the extractor is not tight to the case head?
 
On a second reading of my original post I see that I may have been unclear as to the 2 different points I was making. One had to do with checking sized cases and the other had to do with actual cartridges for hunting situations.
 
You can drop a cartridge in an empty CRF mag and load it easy enough, just the head has to be in the mag. I do this frequently with these, tip is up, head is just at the end of the feed lips, just enough that it's held down.
 
A modern crf extractor can pop onto the rim of a case that is in the chamber, exact same way a push feed does.

Good thing too, my cz 550 magazine would let the rounds go ahead of the extractor so it was a push feed anyway. So if the ectractor cutout is made so there is room to pop over the rim when the round is chamber it can also pop off it with a stuck round negating the supposed super strong extraction of the crf does it not0
 
A modern crf extractor can pop onto the rim of a case that is in the chamber, exact same way a push feed does.

Exactly. If they don’t, a tiny bit of polishing or worst case extending the bevel will take care if it. There’s no excuse for one that doesn’t work.

Having said that, if you are faced with a CRF rifle that stalled out in mid-jump; pretend you’re playing air guitar and use the middle two fingers of your left hand to compress the rear leg of the extractor and close the bolt. This also works on rifles that will jump the rim that are owned by people that think tbey shouldnt.
 
Good thing too, my cz 550 magazine would let the rounds go ahead of the extractor so it was a push feed anyway. So if the ectractor cutout is made so there is room to pop over the rim when the round is chamber it can also pop off it with a stuck round negating the supposed super strong extraction of the crf does it not0

The claw extractor will pop over when chambering but will not pop over during extraction.
 
Thanks. I have a new Zastava, about 150 rounds through it, but have always treated it like the old surplus mausers I am used to. First time I tried to force a round in front of the bolt on one of those was also the last time.
 
I prefer crf..... But that's because the Ruger m77 platform is my fave rifle..... And it's crf....

If dropping a round in the chamber and feeding it push style is a priority for you, then go push feed......

There are so many other reasons to like or dislike a rifle.......
 
I prefer crf..... But that's because the Ruger m77 platform is my fave rifle..... And it's crf....

If dropping a round in the chamber and feeding it push style is a priority for you, then go push feed......

There are so many other reasons to like or dislike a rifle.......

Okay? Seems like you are thinking I have dissed CRF rifles. I like both types, just made a comment on my experiences.
 
Thanks. I have a new Zastava, about 150 rounds through it, but have always treated it like the old surplus mausers I am used to. First time I tried to force a round in front of the bolt on one of those was also the last time.

If it will not close on a chambered round it just need some tweaking.You should be able to close it on a chambered round with ease .
 
I prefer CRF, and especially in the new Model 70s, which in my experience are a very high quality production rifle. Closing them on a chambered round has never been a problem for me. What I love most is that when a fired cartridge gets a little tight in the chamber after expansion, and I have to exert some some force to get it out, I have justified confidence in the extractor to firmly grab the rim with virtually no chance of breakage. I can confidently pull HARD on the cartridge, and it is going to come out.
 
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