Quebec NRPAL Exam format

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Hi Guys, I just went in to do my exam, I am wondering if a written exam is all there is?

I took my test here:

Association chasse et pêche de Montréal Ste-Marie Inc.

And basically there was no practical part of the test (I did not need to unload and PROVE a firearm of anything), it was written only (and extremely easy). I paid 40$ cash and was offered no receipt, tsk, tsk.

Has this also been your experience? How many of you have just challenged the non-restricted test in Quebec and what was your experience?

Do I wait for my results now? (I know some people in the 'speed pal approval times' thread say send your application to miramichi now and fax them the test results when you get them) I am sure I passed, should I just apply?

Is this all there usually is to the exam?

Sorry for all the questions...

:D
 
1000101 said:
I did a written and a practical
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So what was the format? You did a practical where you had to PROVE a firearm? What is this mythical 'practical' beast of which you speak? (and which I was not required to do apparently...)

Can you go into detail?

Thanks! :) Sorry to be a pest.
 
My exam in Ontario was a combination of identifing different types of firearms (both PAL and RPAL) proving a random one safe. For PAL how to cross a fence properlly with the firearm and find a the round that fits in the gun (both RPAL and PAL) by matching the stamps.

Now I could I have missed something, I took the course in 2007 and it may have changed.
 
I just completed the PAL/RPAL in BC. The practical consisted of the instructor/examiner picking a long gun and a pistol to load with snap caps or dummys, demonstrate proper handling, simulate firing positions, and prove safe in a ceasefire range firing scenario.

When that was done, he chose a different one of each for me to secure and lock using several different locking and storage options.

During both segments, the examiner would be asking questions regarding transport, locking scenarios for different actions, etc.

The practical took about 20-25 minutes to complete.
 
show you know how to handle the firearms safely ACTS and PROVE stuff from the written such as climbing over a fence (imaginary fence) keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction at all times finger out of the trigger guard know your safeties on 3-4 different firearms mine were a 12 guage pump a lever action 30-30 a bolt action 22 and a semi auto m308 for my non restricted. show you know how to identify the correct ammo for the firearm. and safe storage questions will be asked as well as transport. for the restricted i had 2 wheel guns one double action one single action and 2 autos a ruger of some sort not sure and a 1911 and once again ACTS and PROVE are shown. finding the right ammo and use of safeties. clear the firearm and put it on the table and step back from the line of fire. questions about safe use range rules storage and transport. it is all basic stuff i had not handle handguns before in my life and i challenged the test and passed (barely 80%) i had no clue on how all the safeties etc worked lol but i fumbled my way through just based on my handling of them in a safe manor he knew i had no experience but knew how to be safe. thats it in a nutshell.
 
Someone I know took it a few weeks ago here in Quebec and received an official receipt with course(s) taken. Name, etc.
The receipt is a provincial receipt
This course should have a practical part as well as a written test. They vary, but it is part of the test.
AS well, that is not the cost of the course in Quebec.
The cfsc course is $71 & the hunting course is $40(taxes in)
 
I should have specified at the start that I am not taking the course, I am simply challenging the tests and going from there.

So they called again today (Sunday, May 27, 2012) and said they forgot to have me fill out a form, when I showed up, the instructor was waiting for me with a form to fill out, which I did by quickly ducking into the classroom and filling it out. However, he also brought out a ruger 1022 which he put on the window ledge in the hallway (all my tests took place in the hallway =p). Then he proceeded to give me the practical test, which consisted of:

1. Without needing to actually operate the firearm mechanicals (bolt was already open, empty, and mag was in, also empty), go verbally through the PROVE steps and show him that I know where the parts are.

2. Identify different cartridge types (rimfire, centerfire), show that I know to look at the headstamp to figure out what caliber the round is.

3. Show him where the stamping was on the action of the 10/22 (I imagine though the skill test is knowing to look at the action for the stamping)

4. What to do when the range officer calls a cease fire (Lock bolt open, check chamber is empty, pull mag, place on the table in front of you and step back from the firing line)

The extremely nice guy I dealt with (Gilles) basically told me I passed.

I suspected that what had actually happened was that I finished the written part so quickly, they just forgot about me or elected to not have me wait for the course to be over and then take the practical (which would have taken forever).

I was in and out in 20 minutes yesterday, and in about 10-15 minutes today.

If you know your stuff and are good at home study, I would definitely suggest challenging the test there, they are very nice, the fact that you do the test out in the hall is ghetto, but does remind me of my wayward high school days =)

So far my NRPAL adventure has cost me some downloading time for the manuals, and 40$ (which is less than a middling bottle of whiskey) =)

At least if my day job goes tits-up, I will be able to join the grizzled heroes of retail law-enforcement as a backup.

My 2 little friends who inspired me to finally bother with taking the test told me I have to wait for my results before I send the whole pile of documents to New Burnswick, should I wait or can I get the process started?
 
The tests are supposed to be identical across the country. In a legitimate test you have to handle three different guns. Instructors in Ontario who have been caught skipping the practical tests or portions of the test have been decertified and in some cases charged with fraud. 1500 students who were tested by one of these fraudsters in the Toronto area had to redo their tests.

What you described is NOT the proper practical test. You may want to call 1-800-731-4000 to report what happened.
 
Wired leader said:
Since you are an instructor, perhaps you could tell him exactly what the practical part of the exam should entail...or even better, provide a link to the info
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LOL, posting the exact requirements of the practical test would be a pretty direct route to decertification as an instructor!

The examiner has to have an assortment of ammunition for the ammo identification section. There must be five guns present for the CFSC practical test; a semi, a bolt, a pump, a lever and a break action. The student must demonstrate 'things' with three of the five guns. You don't have to explain how you would do something, you have to actually demonstrate what the examiner asks you to do. If the instructor asks you to tell how you would do something, he's deviating from the test.
 
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