Questar - 14.5 AR-15 Barrel, M4 Profile

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Hey guys, looking for a barrel for a build that I have on the go. The price is pretty good.

Does anyone have experience with these barrels. Hows the finnish? How does it shoot etc etc. I will be putting it on a Vltor MUR and with a Noveske or a BCM Bolt.

I am also looking at the Stag option from arms east as well as importing from the states to get a Noveske.........but thats def alot more money.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks
 
No one is willing to share? or no one has one yet? The barrels does look nice and seem to be made of high quality materials but they dont seem to be selling well according to Questars website...
 
I thought they would have sold, i holded out for any reviews/tests but opted to go with Noveske. I went with tried/true rather than take a gamble.
 
Yeah, I see that too.

Right on their Features page.

A big Banner that says "Our Match AR Barrels are Not Selling Well":kickInTheNuts:

If they want, I can test one out for them.

Well yes it doesnt really say it on their website...but i have been noticing the amount that they have in stock and they have consistently been at 12x for the 11.5" and 8x for the 14.5" unless of course they are selling really fast and are being restocked every week
 
Well yes it doesnt really say it on their website...but i have been noticing the amount that they have in stock and they have consistently been at 12x for the 11.5" and 8x for the 14.5" unless of course they are selling really fast and are being restocked every week

They have actually been "re-stocked" 3 times including a week ago.

I wouldn't say they have been "selling" really fast but you also should keep in mind that we sell them as barrels only and as completed uppers so we're pleased with the overall sales volume.

We don't expect these to be a high volume item... most buyers (frankly) want to buy the cheapest product they can get. Only a small percentage of customers will pay premium prices for quality and even fewer actually know what quality is or what makes a quality product. Buying a "known name" does not always translate to getting a higher quality product (as we ourselves have discovered on occassion when sourcing products).

Not a single customer who has bought one has indicated any dissatisfaction to us... our own testinng with these barrels was excellent or we wouldn't be offering them as a "premium" product.

Mark
 
Question Regarding Your 14.5" Completed Uppers

Mark,

Are the completed uppers using your 14.5" barrels headspaced and test fired...? The upper receiver is RRA, correct...?

The specs of the completed uppers sound just as advertised, a premium quality product and the threaded F/H, NATO chamber, 1/7 twist and the proper 'F' marked front sight are the way to go... I'm sure you understand the caution however given that the product is (as yet) not widely held, and none of us here have heard anything (good or otherwise) in the way of third party reviews...

Thanks.
 
Mark,

Are the completed uppers using your 14.5" barrels headspaced and test fired...? The upper receiver is RRA, correct...?

The specs of the completed uppers sound just as advertised, a premium quality product and the threaded F/H, NATO chamber, 1/7 twist and the proper 'F' marked front sight are the way to go... I'm sure you understand the caution however given that the product is (as yet) not widely held, and none of us here have heard anything (good or otherwise) in the way of third party reviews...

Thanks.

Uppers are headspaced and test fired... correct.

They are NOT built with RRA upper receiver (RRA's upper receivers do NOT have M4 feed ramps). We source Mil-Spec Upper Receivers that have M4 Feed Ramps.

I have no problem with the idea of asking others for feedback on the product... but I am curious by what standard do you judge that feedback if/when you get it? How do you know if the feedback is honest (regardless of whether it's good or bad)? How do you know if the person giving the feedback knows what they're talking about... or knows how to assemble the product properly (assuming they assemble their own finished upper using our barrel)... or what standard they use when testing the fnished product... or what ammo... etc.?

It's not hard to screw up test data (either intentionally or unintentionally) and it's not hard to make something look good or look bad... again either intentionally or unintentionally... so how do you judge what to put faith in and what not to?

My point is... even if someone posts that they have one and that it is great... what does that really mean and how do you determine if their opinion is worth anything?

Mark
 
Mark,

With all due respect I think your question(s) are perhaps a little self-interested. The very nature of these forums depends on both providing input to, and obtaining input from, other members of the shooting community. I agree that there are many variables that come into play when determining how much credence to give the information one receives (here), but that's the way of the online world. One has to discriminate, pick their sources and make intelligent choices regarding "who to believe".

Why do we trust that you know what you're talking about...? We do so, because you've proven that you do. I don't know you, but I have read your posts and over time have formulated an opinion regarding your level of expertise. And there are many others here amongst us who also know what they're talking about. Those of us who have been around awhile develop a sense for who those people are. The mechanism is the same here as it is in the real world... some people you trust and some you don't.

Where your new-to-the-market products are concerned, you (obviously) have a financial interest in seeing them sell... an interest which has an impact on ones reliance upon the information you provide regarding the quality of the product. Now, please don't misunderstand, I am IN NO WAY suggesting that you would sell us "a bill of goods" that wasn't as described... but your "the salesman", and your product in this case is new to the market, and in addition to that, the major component of the assembly is manufactured by you. In cases such as this, third party input / reviews are your best opportunity to inform and impress.

If I might make some suggestions. Perhaps you could do some testing for us. Throw one of your completed uppers on a lower and take it out to the range and show us what it can do... give us a range report, document performance with metrics such as pics of your best 100 yard target from both your match barrel and a standard barrel (using the same loads) etc. Ask the clients who have purchased both the barrels and the uppers to provide you with testimonials and share them here. Let us know who manufactures the upper receiver. Provide as much detail as you might be willing to give about the other companies involved with you in the production of the barrels. You mention in your original post for these barrels in your vendor forums (when asked where the barrels are from) that some of the work is done in the US and some of it is done here in Canada but stop short of saying by whom. This info would go a long way.

Thanks Mark,

Dave.


Uppers are headspaced and test fired... correct.

They are NOT built with RRA upper receiver (RRA's upper receivers do NOT have M4 feed ramps). We source Mil-Spec Upper Receivers that have M4 Feed Ramps.

I have no problem with the idea of asking others for feedback on the product... but I am curious by what standard do you judge that feedback if/when you get it? How do you know if the feedback is honest (regardless of whether it's good or bad)? How do you know if the person giving the feedback knows what they're talking about... or knows how to assemble the product properly (assuming they assemble their own finished upper using our barrel)... or what standard they use when testing the fnished product... or what ammo... etc.?

It's not hard to screw up test data (either intentionally or unintentionally) and it's not hard to make something look good or look bad... again either intentionally or unintentionally... so how do you judge what to put faith in and what not to?

My point is... even if someone posts that they have one and that it is great... what does that really mean and how do you determine if their opinion is worth anything?

Mark
 
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Mark has gone and done what is best for him. He's got a business and he's running it that way. He doesn't necessarily have to get into a product and then go out of his way to test it the way you're asking. It may be one of those time vs cost balance things which he has to weight out.

I'm picking up what you're throwing down kenjuudo, but Mark doesn't have to "prove" that everything he brings in is worth what he says it is.

I know people can be "self-interested" at times, but lets be honest and say that everyone is that way. The system we live in demands it in a way. The request you're making of him is "self-interested" as well.

He's doing his thing, and everyone knows what Questar is all about and how long he's been around and supported the community up here. Its small, and its a tough game.

These are just some realities, and not everyone can do everything.
 
By and large, I agree with you... however, I'm not asking that he test these things for me, but rather suggesting it as a course of action intended to address posts like the ones here that indicate money has gone south (CdnCombatMedic) because the Questar product is new, unproven etc... and the speculation that these items (which as I have stated, have all the features one might want) aren't selling because of it (Orochi's OP above). I haven't said these things, others have.

It's one thing to import and vend product from established manufacturers... they have a track record that supports their form, fit function etc. I am certainly not questioning Questar's business practices in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. But, they have gone from retailer, to manufacturer... a move which brings with it additional "overhead" beyond the cost of tooling, R&D, materials... namely questions regarding quality and a legitimate desire on the part of the purchasing public to make an informed purchase decision.

No one expects Mark to take his Knight's rifles out to the range and post a range report... but that's because they're Knight's... the work of testing, evaluating and reporting has already been done. That's not the case with the barrels / uppers we're discussing here.


Mark has gone and done what is best for him. He's got a business and he's running it that way. He doesn't necessarily have to get into a product and then go out of his way to test it the way you're asking. It may be one of those time vs cost balance things which he has to weight out.

I'm picking up what you're throwing down kenjuudo, but Mark doesn't have to "prove" that everything he brings in is worth what he says it is.

I know people can be "self-interested" at times, but lets be honest and say that everyone is that way. The system we live in demands it in a way. The request you're making of him is "self-interested" as well.

He's doing his thing, and everyone knows what Questar is all about and how long he's been around and supported the community up here. Its small, and its a tough game.

These are just some realities, and not everyone can do everything.
 
Questar ad for the M4 bbl

Includes:

•14.5'
•1:7 Twist
•MIL-11595E CMV - Chrome Moly Vandium Steel (machine gun grade)
•Thermal & Vibration Stress Relieved
•MP Inspected
•11° Crown
•Threaded 1/2x28TPI
•M4 Barrel Extension
•5.56NATO Chamber
•Chrome Lined per MIL-SPEC
•Parkerized per MIL-SPEC
•'F' Marked A2 Front Sight (no sight post)
•Bayonet lug
•Sling swivel mount (no sling swivel)
•Handguard end-cap, barrel nut and Delta Ring
•Gas Tube and Pin


It seems to say everything in the Questar ad concerning the features/specs of the barrel except who makes them. Mil spec should be mil spec. I don't know if anybody out there has compared barrels available to us in Canada but it seems slim to me. M4 style 14.5" is non existant as far as I can see. All the features are there that would make the M4 style barrel seem like the real Mcoy. What is missing? What would make it better? I've had great results with Mark and the gang at Questar and plan on getting one to go on my CMMG M4 upper.
 
Where are the people crying for Barrel tests from ATRS or Arms East or BadBoyBeeson??
I've never seen a test from Noveske...but it's a $600 barrel.

One person makes a 'quip' about them not selling and suddenly the quality is in Question?

Mark has a large clientele outside CGN. I guess he could approach them and ask them to join CGN and give a review because someone on the 'Net' is doesn't believe him.

?????
 
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It's one thing to import and vend product from established manufacturers... they have a track record that supports their form, fit function etc. I am certainly not questioning Questar's business practices in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. But, they have gone from retailer, to manufacturer... a move which brings with it additional "overhead" beyond the cost of tooling, R&D, materials... namely questions regarding quality and a legitimate desire on the part of the purchasing public to make an informed purchase decision.
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I don't have a horse in this race, but this differentiation between vendor and manufacturer seems relevant to me.
 
Where are the people crying for Barrel tests from ATRS or Arms East or BadBoyBeeson??
I've never seen a test from Noveske...but it's a $600 barrel.

One person makes a 'quip' about them not selling and suddenly the quality is in Question?

Mark has a large clientele outside CGN. I guess he could approach them and ask them to join CGN and give a review because someone on the 'Net' is doesn't believe him.

?????

Well ATRS has been doing this for a long time as with Noveske. I have never heard of Questar making barrels untill these came out...more of a retailer I thought . So why is it so unrealistic to ask for some more info ;product testing. I am sure when ATRS came about people wanted reviews as with Noveske. I think if Under Armour starting making hockey sticks....people would want some reviews etc etc etc before they laid down there hard earned money on one because its something they are not known for.

It says mil-spec on the ad......does that really mean anything anymore. Most stuff gets tagged with "milspec" to sell.
 
"It says mil-spec on the ad......does that really mean anything anymore. Most stuff gets tagged with "milspec" to sell."
Well there you go. Is there truth in advertising? Where are the "Mil Spec" police when you need them? So it boils down to trust. I think a reputable dealer will stand behind his product, and Questar is in Canada, and I have no doubts that Questar would address any problems that would be unlikely to arise. I guess I'll let you know when I get one
 
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