Question about a milsurp find.

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Hey guys.

Question, How many other rifles have a side loading system like the old kraggs?

I am living in southern Germany at the moment and have found a old rusted rifle while fishing. There is no wood left and is fairy rusted. No markings are observable.

It appears to be loaded the same way as a kragg, The Kragg has a Leaf shape on the magazine where you open it. This one looks for like a ball.

The barrel seems to also be bent on purpose, I suppose this was done before they tossed it in the river.

I will try and get photos as soon as I can.

Any help would be good, perhaps photos I could compare to aswell.


Cheers.
 
Likely it was a DANISH Krag Model of 1889, thrown away by the Volksturm.

Danish Krag was in calibre 8x58R. There were several models, but they all were called 'ni og viers' (eighty-nine) by the Danish troops. Loading gate opened to the FRONT on the Danish rifles.

These were rifles which were seized following the April 9, 1940 invasion of Denmark. They were transported mostly to Germany and have disappeared. Danish Krags are very scarce today.

Hope this helps.

BTW, you could make a lot of people very happy if you were to post a picture of it!
 
Here are the photos I got, Taken with a Iphone so not the best.

If they don't work tell me and I will try again, Im not very good with computers.

http://s894.photobucket.com/user/dwdmowat/media/Kragg/Kragg3.jpg.html

http://s894.photobucket.com/user/dwdmowat/media/Kragg/Kragg2.jpg.html

http://s894.photobucket.com/user/dwdmowat/media/Kragg/Kragg1.jpg.html




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The cocking piece on the bolt is an indicator of what it is. Danish m/89 Krag-Jorgensen rifle.

Quote: "After strenuous tests, Denmark adopted the Krag-Jørgensen rifle on July 3, 1889. The Danish rifle differed in several key areas from the weapons later adopted by the USA and Norway, particularly in its use of a forward (as opposed to downward) hinged magazine door, the use of rimmed ammunition, and the use of an outer steel liner for the barrel.[1]

The Danish Krag-Jørgensen was chambered for the 8×58R cartridge (0.31 in / 7.87 mm), and was at least in the early years used as a single shooter with the magazine in reserve. It stayed in service right up to the German invasion of Denmark on April 9, 1940."
 
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Not Danish, but I have a SMLE that was picked up from the side of the road on the Somme. In the same condition. The safety is still on, so I assume there is one up the spout, but that bolt is NEVER going to open!
Apparently the farmers regularly plow up stuff and deposit it next to their fields for pick up.
 
Looks like the bolt was left open, the receiver probably rendered inoperable with a blow from a hammer, the barrel bent and tossed in the river ?

Regardless, a nice find on any fishing trip, and one that you don't have to throw back :).
 
ciphery said:
That one needs A LOT of restoration work. LoL Looks like a 1/2 track or a tank got it as the receiver looks bent too. Might make a good fireplace poker or the like.
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I was thinking the same thing, the bend looks very uniform for some type of tracked vehicle. Though, without knowing the overall length of the firearm found and the width of tracks it would be impossible for me to say.
 
hacer2 said:
wish i could find stuff that cool when i go fishing
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Try fishing in Poland,Ukraine,Latvia,Russia etc.I heard guided fishing vacations in Estonia are popular.

With any luck you can fish out nice,mint Panzer but watch out for AT mines and mortar bombs(years ago there was a lot of those found dumped into Narew river marshes in Poland).
 
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