I recently purchased a firearm and I didn't get to take it home as I don't have an ATT yet, nor do I have membership at a club, I thought they give out temporary ones, or is there a process I have to go through in order to get that like joining a gun club or something?
Question about ATTs
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Did they mention anything about that when you purchased it? They usually apply for a short term att at the time of the purchase. If not it may be getting shipped to your house. In my experience that is handled at the time of the purchase, I would call them and ask if you need to pick it up or if they are shipping it. If you are picking it up the short term att is only valid from the time you pick it up at the store until you get home. Then you must apply for a long term att. Depending where you are in Canada the rules are different.
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Not too sure if it's Canada wide, but I have been reading recently that a store CANNOT apply for a STATT (short term att) for customers. The customer has to call in and apply for it themselves, once the store has initiated the transfer. This is all in terms of how they do it in AB, so it may differ in whatever province you reside in. Maybe another more well versed member can confirm that stores cannot apply for STATT for customers anymore.
Also yes, you may have some difficulty with not being a member of a gun club. But the store should be able to better inform you of that, or in some cases have an affiliated gun club that they can help you apply to.
Also yes, you may have some difficulty with not being a member of a gun club. But the store should be able to better inform you of that, or in some cases have an affiliated gun club that they can help you apply to.
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True that, OP where did you buy your gun?
A big part of the answer sadly depends on where you are, because all the CFOs are not playing by the same book.
As an example on Friday I went in to P&D Enterprises and paid for a Walther PPQ Navy shortly before lunch, the people at the shop called the CFO and initiated the transfer. After lunch I went by the CFO and they completed the transfer, issued an ATT to take the pistol home, and issued an ATT for taking it to the range. That's more or less how it should be with the current system, though I imagine the people at the office might get cranky if they have an endless stream of people banging on the window.
Essentially, you should be applying for your own ATTs, as they are for you.
However, in Ontario and similar places the CFO has been trying to force people the make the club apply for you and they have been getting in trouble about it.
As an example on Friday I went in to P&D Enterprises and paid for a Walther PPQ Navy shortly before lunch, the people at the shop called the CFO and initiated the transfer. After lunch I went by the CFO and they completed the transfer, issued an ATT to take the pistol home, and issued an ATT for taking it to the range. That's more or less how it should be with the current system, though I imagine the people at the office might get cranky if they have an endless stream of people banging on the window.
Essentially, you should be applying for your own ATTs, as they are for you.
However, in Ontario and similar places the CFO has been trying to force people the make the club apply for you and they have been getting in trouble about it.
I got my restricted in Ontario before joining a range, had no problems securing a temporary ATT to take it home. It was actually quite the opposite experience I was expecting to have. The dealer took care of pretty much everything on my behalf too!
Couldn't you state that it's for a gun collection too? On the RCMP's website it says...
Criteria for each purpose
Depending on which purpose is claimed, there are specific criteria that must be met, as follows:
Target Shooting Practice and Competition
To be authorized to have restricted firearms for target shooting purposes, an individual must provide proof that he or she practices or competes at an approved shooting club or range. For more information about approved shooting clubs and ranges, contact the appropriate provincial or territorial CFO by calling 1-800-731‑4000.
Collectors of Restricted Firearms
To be authorized to have restricted firearms as part of a collection, an individual must:
• Know the historical, technical or scientific features of such firearms in their collection
• Consent to occasional inspections of the place where their collection is stored
• Comply with regulations dealing with safe storage, record-keeping and other matters related to restricted firearms
Usually when a restricted transfer goes to CFO they will look at certain things and everything should happen automatically. If the transfer is done by phone, you'll hear these exact question being answered.
Storage at home? Home or other address will be on ATT if required
Shipped or pick up in person? Shipped, no STATT. Pick up, STATT from purchase location to storage address.
If STATT required, fax to business? E-mail? Snail mail?
Club membership or collector? Club members get LTATT from storage to specified ranges. Collector, no LTATT. (Must submit proof of membership for first purchase and for LTATT renewal)
As long as the business does the transfer correctly, the CFO will know what you need for your circumstances and it should all happen automatically. There should be no need to call or otherwise apply for your ATTs, the CFO knows by the transfer info what you're going to need and they know it isn't optional to do it. The transfer cannot be complete until all of these points are met.
Storage at home? Home or other address will be on ATT if required
Shipped or pick up in person? Shipped, no STATT. Pick up, STATT from purchase location to storage address.
If STATT required, fax to business? E-mail? Snail mail?
Club membership or collector? Club members get LTATT from storage to specified ranges. Collector, no LTATT. (Must submit proof of membership for first purchase and for LTATT renewal)
As long as the business does the transfer correctly, the CFO will know what you need for your circumstances and it should all happen automatically. There should be no need to call or otherwise apply for your ATTs, the CFO knows by the transfer info what you're going to need and they know it isn't optional to do it. The transfer cannot be complete until all of these points are met.
In some provinces it's easy to get collector status, you more or less just ask your CFO. Other provinces are by the book. Here in NB it's hard to get the CFO to even pay attention to a request for collector status. If they actually allow you to proceed with the application process, you must demonstrate an EXTREME knowledge of the types of firearms you are interested in collecting. If you say you want to collect S&Ws, well you better know the history of the company and their product in great detail. Once you have status though, you can buy whatever you want. You just can't leave the house with them without an ATT of some sort. I know in some cities it costs more than your first gun, but just buy a damn membership, it's so much easier. Besides, as a "collector" you could be subject to inspection, which seems to be equivalent to rape for some people.
