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When aiming with both eyes open, do you see a duplicate of your pistol off to one side?

I'm asking because I had Lasik done and now I can aim with both eyes open, but I see a ghost image of the gun off to the right.

Even with that ghost image, it is amazing to me that I can aim with both eyes open without my vision being a total cluster****
 
if you hold 1 finger/ or hold a pencil out at arms length What do you see?

I See only 1 pencil

Your brain over Time will correct it self to seeing 1 image with two eyes

you will see the dominate image

Not a expert but that is what I under stand
 
FastFord58 said:
When aiming with both eyes open, do you see a duplicate of your pistol off to one side?

I'm asking because I had Lasik done and now I can aim with both eyes open, but I see a ghost image of the gun off to the right.

Even with that ghost image, it is amazing to me that I can aim with both eyes open without my vision being a total cluster****
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I had laser surgery about 15 years ago. When I aim with both eyes open I see a ghost image. However, I've been shooting with both eyes open for so long I don't even notice it anymore.
 
The fact that I can do it now without visual artifacts all over the target is an improvement. I'm only 5 days post op, so I'm going to work on it.
 
FastFord58 said:
The fact that I can do it now without visual artifacts all over the target is an improvement. I'm only 5 days post op, so I'm going to work on it.
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just dont shoot for a while after the operation, gunshots generate pressure waves, you dont want that flap to dislodge

I shot pistol with both open after ipsc training. Had the op in march, but I dont remember seeing a ghost image since
 
luke s said:
just dont shoot for a while after the operation, gunshots generate pressure waves, you dont want that flap to dislodge

I shot pistol with both open after ipsc training. Had the op in march, but I dont remember seeing a ghost image since
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Ah, man, I wanted to shoot my .500 mag lol.

They cleared me to shoot, but they probably don't take into account the pressure waves. Of course, if I wear a swimming type goggle...

I've been mucking around, and I find if I close my one eye about 1/4 of the way, the ghost disappears.
 
It was not stated at what ranges and what type of shooting you fellows are doing. A few years back Jim Cirillo wrote an article on shooting with both eyes open and looking along the sides of the slide or barrel instead of through the sights. This was, of course, for combat shooting. I practiced this technique for a while and was surprise at how accurate one can become. Certainly not bullseye accurate, but not tht far off either.
 
tekarra said:
It was not stated at what ranges and what type of shooting you fellows are doing. A few years back Jim Cirillo wrote an article on shooting with both eyes open and looking along the sides of the slide or barrel instead of through the sights. This was, of course, for combat shooting. I practiced this technique for a while and was surprise at how accurate one can become. Certainly not bullseye accurate, but not tht far off either.
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25 yds max with small calibre. 50-100 yds with the .500.

Low end, about 10-12 yds on the action range.
 
tekarra said:
It was not stated at what ranges and what type of shooting you fellows are doing. A few years back Jim Cirillo wrote an article on shooting with both eyes open and looking along the sides of the slide or barrel instead of through the sights. This was, of course, for combat shooting. I practiced this technique for a while and was surprise at how accurate one can become. Certainly not bullseye accurate, but not tht far off either.
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I shot an IPSC match once with no sights on the gun, I just sighted down the slide like it was a shotgun rib. Had no problem getting good hits out to 10m. The trick is to have something to line up, you are still aiming, just not with the sights...
 
FastFord58 said:
When aiming with both eyes open, do you see a duplicate of your pistol off to one side?
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Yes I do. I simply use the right hand image which corresponds to my left eye since the left is slightly more clear due to some astigmatism in my right eye.

just having some fun said:
if you hold 1 finger/ or hold a pencil out at arms length What do you see?

I See only 1 pencil

Your brain over Time will correct it self to seeing 1 image with two eyes

you will see the dominate image

Not a expert but that is what I under stand
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If you see that while staring off into the distance then you have a strongly dominant eye. The mind isn't "correcting" itself so much as it's ignoring one of the images. THose of us without any strong dominance of one eye over the other will see two equal or nearly equal images and they stay separate. Either that our you shift your focus to the thumb and instead of two thumbs you see two of whatever you were looking at in the distance instead.

With that strong a dominance I suspect you were no good at seeing the 3D image in those pattern pictures that were popular a few years ago. To see them required little to no dominance at all.

FastFord58 said:
...I've been mucking around, and I find if I close my one eye about 1/4 of the way, the ghost disappears.
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You're likely darkening that side of the image or otherwise occluding the image so that you're not seeing the gun through that eyelid. Once you start to cover the image with your eyelid the brain shifts from equal dominance to dominating on the clear and fully bright image.
 
FastFord58 said:
When aiming with both eyes open, do you see a duplicate of your pistol off to one side?

I'm asking because I had Lasik done and now I can aim with both eyes open, but I see a ghost image of the gun off to the right.

Even with that ghost image, it is amazing to me that I can aim with both eyes open without my vision being a total cluster****
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Yes, I see a "second gun". This is basic optics, you're focusing on the front sights so the rest of the world is out of focus, and doubled.

Just curious, why couldn't you before your laser operation ? I have contacts or glasses when I shoot and it was never a problem...
 
CaffeineSam said:
Yes, I see a "second gun". This is basic optics, you're focusing on the front sights so the rest of the world is out of focus, and doubled.

Just curious, why couldn't you before your laser operation ? I have contacts or glasses when I shoot and it was never a problem...
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I don't have a good answer for that. I just couldn't. I'm sure there is some kind of physiological explaination for it, but I don't have it.
 
Someone had to post this :p

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