questions about redfield scopes ( who repairs them ? )

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where would a guy send one of these to be repaired ?

i thinking of the original redfield , built previous to when it was sold ( wasn't it blout , or the owners of blout that bought them ? , then leopold just recently ? )

i'm a huge fan of the original 4x redfield wide field scopes , i have a few of them , my stw has a 3-9 widefield on it .

my dad has had one on his 30-06 since the late 60's , and only had the nitrogen leak out once ( redfield fixed it without issue 20 years after he bought it ) .

i have no issues with the scopes i have right now , but i have no idea who i would contact to have them repaired if i did .

i'm sure i'm not the only guy who has thought about this .
 
I sent mine to a Redfield repair facility in Florida once. These guys repair the older Redfields for sure.
I can't remember the company name or address as this was three years ago, sorry!
Be prepared for a long wait, forget about emailing them (never responded) and be patient on the phone. (very poor english on the other end)
My turn around time was almost 3.5 months.

Found it:

h ttp://www.abousainc.com/sub1.htm

Be forewarned, I is was nickel/dimed upwards in my bill. Not alot, but about 40 dollars over my original quote.
 
So you are telling the poor guy to SHIP a RIFLE SCOPE from CANADA to the USA for repairs, then have them SHIP it back to CANADA (crossing the us/canada border 2x) and the customs agents will just not confiscate the scope. ???? And all this in just 3.5 months?? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAHAHA , and no import/export permits required???
There is an authorized repair center in Alberta that services Leupold AND REDFIELD scopes. I can't remember the name, but its well known. (I just bought a Leupold and a redfield , so I will be looking eventually)
 
sgt.rock said:
So you are telling him that if he ships his scope from CANADA to the USA to a repair depot, and then they ship it back to you? In 3.5 months?? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
And the customs agents will just let you have it back with no export permits??
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i did some searching , these guys are the ones that originally repaired redfield scopes , and it is only one guy doing the work , and it sounds like they are always back logged .
i've read many posts in many forums where there is a long waiting period , i've also read that they do very good work .
 
sgt.rock said:
So you are telling the poor guy to SHIP a RIFLE SCOPE from CANADA to the USA for repairs, then have them SHIP it back to CANADA (crossing the us/canada border 2x) and the customs agents will just not confiscate the scope. ???? And all this in just 3.5 months?? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAHAHA , and no import/export permits required???
There is an authorized repair center in Alberta that services Leupold AND REDFIELD scopes. I can't remember the name, but its well known. (I just bought a Leupold and a redfield , so I will be looking eventually)
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I AM SO Wrong!!!
 
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Are scopes sent for repair not required to have the permits for to and from travel across the border?? Am I missing something? I re-read my original posting, and due to my obnoxious response, I have to issue an apology, as I must have had a mini-stroke. (transient Ischemic attack) I really didn't want to insult the respondant, but I surely did.
Anyhow, I was told by someone else that they repaired ALL the redfields. I was misinformed. I retract my whole statement, and will have my 4 year old daughter kick me in the nuts as punishment. But my question still remains.......Don't permits have to be acquired beforehand, and can't those take up to 6 months total before 2 way clearance has been approved?? Just asking for clarification, as I have ogled many of the older redfields nearly buying several, and recently I was told that they could be fixed in Alberta, was gonna buy one last week. But I will not buy one if I have to go through the permit hassle to a US repair center. Thanks, and sorry.
 
It's alright, IIRC this controlled item would have to come under ITARs/USML (United Stated Munitions List) and fall under the category of SME. (Significant Military Equipment) For this to happen a military customer within the USA would have to recognize/accept this item as of MIL-SPEC grade,and issue a NSN (NATO stock number)
When this happens the military must inform the US manufacturer of this significant change.
There is alot of supposition and confusion at this point, because the USA maintains a list of soverign states it will not allow export of controlled goods too, and even then many are unsure if even mil-dots reticles only, change this said item to a controlled item. The USML list governs about 21 seperate categories, such as, warships, laser guidance systems for missilles, night vision gear, toxic agents and even classified articles & documents.
This info IS out of date due to State Department rules. (You ARE right Sgt Rock)

I have to eat crow!!
 
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Upon further research, as of 2007, i found this important info from Liberty Optics website:
Turns out ALL riflescopes are controlled items. Those that are military spec are controlled under ITAR and require a license from the Department of State. We will not be exporting these items. This includes Eotech HWS, Nightvision, thermal sights, or other explicit milspec items. We do not export IOR riflescopes per agreement with Valdada (it's not illegal, but we can't do it). All other riflescopes are classified as "Dual Use" and fall under the Department of Commerce, Bureau of Industry Security, under the Export Administration Regulations. The requisite classification is found in the Commerce Control List. With few exceptions, export of Dual Use items requires a license. You must also ensure that the person receiving the goods are not under various "no-no" lists published by the likes of the Treasury Department. Certain countries are exempt from licensing under the Dual Use regulations, and we elect to cull others that are otherwise legal but we are not comfortable with. As of the time of this writing, we can export Dual Use optics to the following countries, in compliance with all custom regulations:

Australia, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Japan, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom

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Hell! Canada did not even make the list for Dual Use items!

I am in grave error here as my info was NOT up to date!
I apologise and will be PM'ing the OP for this update.
 
Thats what my take was on it......paper nightmare, and apparently still no guarantee it will make it either there or back. I can't believe that with ALL the vintage Redfield scopes in this country, that NO ONE FIXES THEM????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? What a missed opportunity for someone.
 
Redfield is now part of the ' leupold family ' Leupold Canada ( Korth Industries ) Okotoks Alberta , you mentioned it was an older scope maybe drop them a line anyways
 
burnt_servo said:
where would a guy send one of these to be repaired ?

i thinking of the original redfield , built previous to when it was sold ( wasn't it blout , or the owners of blout that bought them ? , then leopold just recently ? )

i'm a huge fan of the original 4x redfield wide field scopes , i have a few of them , my stw has a 3-9 widefield on it .

my dad has had one on his 30-06 since the late 60's , and only had the nitrogen leak out once ( redfield fixed it without issue 20 years after he bought it ) .

i have no issues with the scopes i have right now , but i have no idea who i would contact to have them repaired if i did .

i'm sure i'm not the only guy who has thought about this .
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Iron Sight Inc. out of Tulsa, Oklahoma repairs the old Denver made Redfields. And yes, that's in the USA. :)
 
jennis said:
Redfield is now part of the ' leupold family ' Leupold Canada ( Korth Industries ) Okotoks Alberta , you mentioned it was an older scope maybe drop them a line anyways
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Leupold will/or cannot repair older Redfield products. The only thing in common with the new Leupold Redfields and the old ones are...the name. Phil.
 
Too bad, I have been tempted to pull the trigger on several of these over the years, but the prices are too close to the current model/brand used scopes to take the risk for me. If they were probably half the price they would be a good risk. (kinda like why prohibs are so cheap on average.....few can own them so the market is small, if no scopes can be fixed , then equally the market is now small)
 
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