Questions about SWEDISH AG42B Semi??

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Hello All

Sorry if i am in the wrong Forum but it didnt seem to fit in the other Post WW2 Forum so i thought i would ask you folks!

I have been looking at one of these AG42B Semi auto Rifles.
I have a Seller that is Selling me some of his Collection whenever i want to buy somthing. And every time i open up his Safes to Fondle the diffrent Rifles i am Always Drawn to this Rifle..

Can anyone give me some insight into this rifle?
How common are they?
How do they Shoot?
What Price Range do they sell in?
were can i find more Info?

here is a link for some pictures
http://w w w.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/ag42/ag42eng.htm

Sorry if i am in the wrong place! Mods feel free to shut it down or move it what ever works!!:ar15:

Adanac00
 
They seem to sell in around the $300-$400 range when in good shape. They are reasonnably common, and were sold surplus here back in the 70's and 80's. Spare mags are hard to come by, and sell for a premium price compared to other surplus rifles. Ideally you should get a cleaning and spare parts kit that includes a spare extractor and firing pin. The one's I had functioned very well. One had a good bore and shot as well as or better than an M14. Another had a dark bore and shot poorly after a couple of shots as the barrel warmed up. They are pleasant to shoot, and have little recoil.
 
They are great, accurate rifles. If you can get one in good condition (most of the time), you'll be well advised to wear muffs when shooting, they are VERY loud.
They are murder on brass, too, but they fling it so far you won't see it after anyway.
It is important to keep a very clean and polished chamber on these if you want to avoid case rim tearing and occasional extractor breakage.
PP.
P-S: They can bite you very hard if you don't handle them properly :eek:. Same goes for their offspring, the 8mm. Mauser Hakim.
 
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Reasonably common. Only 30 000ish were made, so certainly not as many out there as, say an SVT 40, but there is also less demand for them. They are about as long as an SVT 40 but quite a bit heavier. $250-$350 in good shape (which they usually are). Pleasant to shoot and accurate. They also have a very unique action which is sure to confuse anyone who tries to work it. If you reload it is advisable to use a moderate to fast burning powder. A slow burning powder will cause problems with torn off rims and broken extractors. Spray a light coat of a dry lube on your rounds before you shoot them to avoid tearing off the rim of the round or breaking the extractor. A chamber brush is also a good thing to have.
 
There's another similar rifle known as the Hakim, which is the Egyptian redesign of the Ljungmann. The main differences, is that the Hakim is chambered for 8mm mauser and uses a large muzzle brake to reduce recoil even further. They're also not as common as the SVT and there isn't much demand for them either.

How does the Ljungmann cocking action work? I'm guess you slide the reciever cover forward, it catches the bolt carrier, and then you pull it all the way back, thus opening the action.
 
UCSPanther said:
How does the Ljungmann cocking action work? I'm guess you slide the reciever cover forward, it catches the bolt carrier, and then you pull it all the way back, thus opening the action.
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Exactly right, but for God's sake, watch your fingers. Ljungmans like to bite.

If the safety is on, the whole arrangement stops at the rear of the receiver. A deceptive calm falls over the scene. "Hmm", you think, "lookit all that access in there. I can see the mag and all the way across the receiver. There's no ejection port - just plenty of sky for those empty cases to find their way out. What smart engineering. Those wiley Swedes."

Then, as you reach in to tickle the mag follower or poke at the chamber, you nudge the safety to off. The bolt flies forward and gives you something that makes Garand Thumb look like a kiss from a supermodel. You bleed profusely and use language your mother would never approve of, unless she'd had the same thing happen to her, in which case she'd be right in there with you. Your buddies help you find your thumbtip. Your hitchhiking career is over, but you are wiser for the experience.

I like AG42's plenty, aside from their tendency to mangle any brass you can ever find again. They're a neat design, and use an economy of parts. It's smart engineering.

Just hell on fingers.
 
Always a crowd pleaser to watch the new AG42 owner at the range. It really isn't funny but you just can't help but watch the train wreck that is coming.
 
I bought one when I was 16 at the United Army Surplus store on Portage Avenue. I beleive it was $89.00. I had to wait to apply for an FAC. All that time I had to wait for my first "high powered" rifle and the girl never even asked to see it. No instructions, just a spare parts and cleaning kit. Amazingly I never managed to catch my finger in the mousetrap of an action learning how it worked. You could buy Imperial 160 grain ammo with a round nose and Norma Ammo that cost almost near half the price of the rifle.
 
Dark Alley Dan, I'll second that remark about what an AG42B will do to your finger!:eek:
If you see one on a gun rack in the store it will usually have the action open because some "trigger snapper" can't figure out how to close it.

Now to repeat my favourite story told to me by a salesman at "Ye Olde Hunter" (alexandria Virginia) where I bought my Lewis gun.

They had a Steyr Solothurn on the display floor. (20mm) a customer wanted to see how strong the return spring was. So he cranked the bolt back (rack and pinion), stuck his finger in the ejection port against the bolt face, and PULLED THE TRIGGER!:eek::eek:
 
AG 42b

The 42b is a fun gun but you should have the tool roll. You can get the cleaning patch stuck in the end of the barrel if the nut isn't removed. There is a space at the end of the barrel where it is ported. A friend of mine arrived at my door one day carrying a 42b with a rod and patch stuck in the barrel. He was cleaning the gun from the breech and the rod wasn't long enough to go all the way out the muzzle, and the patch got caught in the space when he tried to pull it out. I just took off the nut with a tool from one of my tool role and got it out.
If anyone has a spare top wood lying around send me a PM.
 
I LOVE MY LJUNGMAN!!!

- All points covered so far except this: you'll love it too!

i) LOUD (no understatement)
ii) Chews Brass (Mine does, upon extraction takes a bite/makes a stamp at base of brass) so, not suitable for re-loading. ALso, throws brass (I'm not sure which is deadlier, the ball or the brass, both leave the rifle with serious energy)
iii) Very "cool" design. Direct gas blowback. No piston. You can feel the "breeze" over your head
iv) Fantastic Caliber. Notorious for acuuracy, the rifle serves it well too. I haven't had my hands on ALL WWII era semi's but, I simply can't imagine something more accurate!
v) "nearly" ambidexterous use...the action is a little "busier" than most semi's. As warned, it'll certainly surprise the thumb/finger that's in the wrong spot (if you manage to keep the thumb/finger)

...I paid 90$'s, at auction, for mine, 20+years ago. I was teased then...took it out with "the boys"...He who laughs last, laughs best! They are fantastic shooters. I have seen one with a scope (In Iqaluit...great for seals) and, I don't think I've ever seen one "Bubba'd".
 
John Sukey said:
They had a Steyr Solothurn on the display floor. (20mm) a customer wanted to see how strong the return spring was. So he cranked the bolt back (rack and pinion), stuck his finger in the ejection port against the bolt face, and PULLED THE TRIGGER!:eek::eek:
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How long did it take to get the windows replaced after his scream broke them, I wonder?? :D:eek:
 
Just a heads up...Never ever pull the trigger while the rifle is disassembled, it will destroy the firearm. This straight from the manual.
 
Unfortunately I have one, nice rifle, good condition, love 6.5x55, but it eats brass and I just cannot use it, tried all combinations, reloads, factory, surplus, eats and jams. Yes beware of the thumb, it will happen ONCE.
 
super accurate, really loud; that heavy barrel is a real help, but the compensator makes the noise.

the problems with brass damage are related to port pressure. Control that and they are gentle on brass.

always: have fun!
 
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