Questions on paperwork steps for BC CFO

karmadoc

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Forgive me if I sound confused and stupid but I'm brand new to all of this :)

So here's the deal. I am currently waiting for my RPAL to arrive, my status states that my license has been issued and should be here within 2 weeks.
I found a CZ 75 Shadow for a really good price, so I bought it and it is now sitting in the vault at the store awaiting my RPAL number. The store is on the Lower Mainland, I am in Victoria, I plan on having it shipped to me rather than paying BC Ferries exorbitant rates to go and pick it up and having to deal with the whole short term ATT thing (I'm hoping to work it so that I'm home when it's delivered so that it doesn't end up at my local postal outlet a whole 4 blocks away).

My questions for you fine and knowledgeable folks are, once I get my RPAL in the mail should I be applying for a LTATT right away? I already belong to a range. I read somewhere that the BC CFO won't go ahead with the transfer that the store will initiate until they see I have applied for a LTATT, is that true?
If it is true, on the LTATT application you need the Firearm Identification Number so how do I go about providing that? Do I call the store and ask them for it? Or is what I've read about the "no transfer without a LTATT" false and I have to wait until I am actually in possession of the firearm (and FIN #) before I apply for a LTATT?
I understand that you can apply for an "all ranges in BC, anytime" LTATT, can anyone advise me on how to fill out, or which areas to leave blank on, the application to accomplish that? To be honest I would be hard pressed to list which days and times I would be going to my range, I don't tend to run my life on a set schedule that way, so I would definitely be interested in learning how I can get a transport permit that allows me to go out there when I have the time and feel like it.

Also while I'm asking you questions, can I apply for a LTATT to transport my husbands firearms and vice versa, in case we are going to the range separately and want to use the other persons firearms?

Any and all help in figuring out the BC CFO rules are appreciated!
 
My suggestion (I'm sure others will chime in).

Once your RPAL shows up....

1) Get letter from your range stating that you are a present member in good standing
2) Fill up this form and print ---> http://www.pcdhfc.com/index_files/pcdhfc_att Oct.11.pdf
3) Fax both 1 and 2 to BC CFO
note: BC CFO will not approve your restricted transfer if you don't have an LTATT
4) Inform store that you have faxed your LTATT application to BC CFO so that they can initiate the transfer
5) Wait .... Wait... Wait
6) Once you receive your LTATT documents, your tranfer documents should be done as well (sometimes not)
7) Store will inform you that transfer has been approved and they will ship your firearm to you.
8) Wait for postman. If postman missed you, you have to pick up your firearm to the post office outlet. You need an STATT to pick it up. Call BC CFO to issue you an STATT (e-mail or fax)
9) Once you have your STATT, pick up firearm at postal outlet and take home
10) Enjoy

Hope this helps. If I miss anything, others can chime in.
 
yes, you do need the long term ATT first. your club may have a template, or I think there used to be one at the Silvercore.ca website, but i don't see it now. there is one at the PCDHFC.COM site, at ht tp://www.pcdhfc.com/index_files/pcdhfc_att%20Oct.11.pdf which you can download and use as a template. hover over the 'yellow stickies' for instructions and

you do not put the FRT on the LTATT, you put 'all firearms licensed to'

you do not specify days and hours, you put all days 0000-0000 hrs.

your gun club probably has a template you can use.

have fun
 
In Section B, mine was filled out to read "All firearms for which the authorization holder possesses a valid registration certificate." so your ATT will cover all restricteds that are registered to you. No need to list each one individually.

For Section C, Name of Shooting Club or Range was filled out with my club name then under 'Shooting club or range approval number' to read 'and all approved gun clubs and ranges' - this should cover the going to various different ranges.

Worked for mine anyhow.
 
It is not so complicated.

Print off the form from the Canadian Firearms Centre (CFC) website at:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/num-nom/679-eng.htm


Ignore the three pages of instructions if you want to take your restricted firearm to the range, to a gunsmith or back and forth across the border.

All that needs to be completed is:


Section A- Personal Information Complete as required
Section B Firearm Information LEAVE BLANK
Section C Reason For Transport Check boxes d, i, and m and give the name of your home club.
Section D Date And Times Of Transport LEAVE BLANK
Section E Transport Route LEAVE BLANK
Section F Applicant Declaration Complete as required


The form can be completed on screen except for Section C, wherein the program will only let you make one choice. Complete as per the above instructions, print out, then add the two checks in section C.

Fax your completed application and a copy of your range membership to: Canadian Firearms Centre, British Columbia 604-575-1241.

You do not need to put any information about your gun or write "all firearms licenced to".

You do not need to write anything in boxes B, D or E

Don't complicate the application with unecessary information.

You will receive an LTATT authorizing you to take your gun to any range in BC or the Yukon, to any gunsmith and to the border or back. Simple.
 
Also, the BC CFO doesn't require that you have your LTATT to bring your gun home. You just need an STATT and the store should look after getting that for you.
 
OK, so still not super clear, but I like the answers in Post 5 the best..the least amount of information and bs :D
Once my RPAL shows up in the mail I'll give it a try. I like the fact that you can use one LTATT for all restricted firearms that you own, now or within the 5 years that it's valid. I'm planning on buying a 22 pistol as well and thought I would have to go through the whole LTATT process again once I got it. :p

So does anyone know about the rules around me being able to transport my husbands guns to the range or vice versa? Would we each apply for an LTATT listing the other person as the registered owner of the guns on the permit so we are able to do that?

Thanks for all the help. Glad I can come here to ask questions without being judged....
 
You can take your spouse's firearms to the range and vice versa without another LTATT as long as you both live at the same address and as long as you have all the firearms registration certificates with you. That's what I was told by CFC.
 
I live in BC and I've ordered two hand guns since getting my RPAL in the last few weeks. One gun has been shipped and received from Ontario and the other one has just been approved and will be shipped shortly from the lower mainland. I do not have an LTATT for either gun and as of yet I have never applied for one but I was approved for both guns. I plan on doing the LTATT application for both guns after the second one arrives. I don't care how long it takes as I'm not in any hurry. In my case no ATT was required to recive my registration documents or my guns.
 
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Hey Mark,
I emailed Wanstalls to check on this and they said that I don't need an LTATT for them to transfer registration or ship the gun I have sitting with them. However in my efforts to get the BC CFO to release my license number to me (they screwed up my address so had to reissue my license and I'm waiting for it to arrive) they kindly offered to process an application for an LTATT for me which will be good for all ranges in BC, anytime and all firearms registered to me. Now I just need the license to show up so I can get the transfer underway!
 
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@karmadoc - My gun is also coming from Wanstalls a 9mm Baby Eagle. I called CFC out east and they told me to apply for my LTATT over the phone with them after I get my guns. Supposedly it takes about ten minutes and all you have to do is fax them your range membership. I already have my Norinco Sportsman from Ontario. The paperwork on the Norinco went through in 5 days.
 
@karmadoc - My gun is also coming from Wanstalls a 9mm Baby Eagle. I called CFC out east and they told me to apply for my LTATT over the phone with them after I get my guns. Supposedly it takes about ten minutes and all you have to do is fax them your range membership. I already have my Norinco Sportsman from Ontario. The paperwork on the Norinco went through in 5 days.

My license showed up yesterday so I called Wanstalls and they've put in the paperwork for the transfer. I'm having them call me when that's complete so I can arrange to have it shipped and hopefully have it delivered on a day when I'm home. :)
If I haven't heard anything about the transfer or my LTATT by Friday next week I'm calling the BC CFO or Miramichi, whoever is picking up their extension right now. :rolleyes:
 
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