Questions - Uberti Army Outlaw In 357 Mag.
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Honestly if you don't have one, I would get an actual ball and cap revolver before I'd get one of these.
These are good but it is a lot of fun to shoot a black powder ball and cap.
The loading isn't that bad once you get a bit of practice. The entertainment value of shooting blackpowder is significant: the smoke cloud, the smell.
Every hand gun shooter should have one ball'n cap blackpowder revolver.
I like my 1858 New Army. I would like to have a Colt Walker too at some point.
These are good but it is a lot of fun to shoot a black powder ball and cap.
The loading isn't that bad once you get a bit of practice. The entertainment value of shooting blackpowder is significant: the smoke cloud, the smell.
Every hand gun shooter should have one ball'n cap blackpowder revolver.
I like my 1858 New Army. I would like to have a Colt Walker too at some point.
You can shoot 38spl in it if it's chambered for 357mag. If you got a leather holster for it you could have some fun... I would recommend a shorter barrel length. Easier to handle.
You might even be able to find some black powder 38 rounds - same effect as a muzzle stuffer but faster to load. Though I've never seen any myself...
You might even be able to find some black powder 38 rounds - same effect as a muzzle stuffer but faster to load. Though I've never seen any myself...
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I have one myself; 7.5 inch barrel in 45 Colt. A fun gun to shoot. Haven't had any issues with mine.
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they take 38 spl just fine. A lot of fun, but i to would recommend the cap and ball version instead, even more fun!
I got into these because I can't stand the mess of cap and ball. All of the crap that gets blown back into the mechanism. You can load black powder cartridge for these too, so it's the same thing.
It's a different mindset. If you are the sort to use speed loaders with a revolver, or run through a cylinder in DA in 3 seconds, this will get old. If you like to take your time and pace your shooting, they are a lot of fun. I don't have a .357, though. 44-40 and 45Colt, along with a 30m1 Blackhawk. I'm looking for a Uberti open top in .38 special, though.
It's a different mindset. If you are the sort to use speed loaders with a revolver, or run through a cylinder in DA in 3 seconds, this will get old. If you like to take your time and pace your shooting, they are a lot of fun. I don't have a .357, though. 44-40 and 45Colt, along with a 30m1 Blackhawk. I'm looking for a Uberti open top in .38 special, though.
Try asking your question here; http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?board=55.0
Also; http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?PHPSESSID=3r6f5qacdi7gcrassvo9unah30&
Also; http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?PHPSESSID=3r6f5qacdi7gcrassvo9unah30&
All of my ammo is readily available because I reload 
Well....as readily available as powder is these days....
For the open top I was looking at the '51 Navy conversion, since that was .36 cal and would make sense to have in .38 special. If I was going for the '71-'72 I'd probably go bigger.
Wolverine has a few open tops, I think, in the bigger chamberings.
If you want a nice handling gun that gets looks, check the '58 Remington conversion. It has all of the charm of the old cap and ball frame in a big bore hand gun with a long enough barrel that people will think you're compensating for something - LOL
Well....as readily available as powder is these days....
For the open top I was looking at the '51 Navy conversion, since that was .36 cal and would make sense to have in .38 special. If I was going for the '71-'72 I'd probably go bigger.
Wolverine has a few open tops, I think, in the bigger chamberings.
If you want a nice handling gun that gets looks, check the '58 Remington conversion. It has all of the charm of the old cap and ball frame in a big bore hand gun with a long enough barrel that people will think you're compensating for something - LOL
A black powder load in a .357 casing with a 158gn bullet is a close approximation to the old black powder 38-20 cartridge. From shooting such loads from my own single action guns I can say that these loads kick like a good .38Spl +P round. Which is to say that it kicks like a really stout .38Spl load but softer by quite a lot than a full on .357Mag.
A modern casing in .45Colt will have room for roughly 35 to 40 grains of black powder behind a 200gn cast bullet. Again this is going to produce a pretty healthy bump to the hand but it won't come close to what you'd feel with a .44Mag.
In case you're not aware it's important with loading ANY black powder cartridges that the casing MUST be filled to the point where you get roughly 1/16 to 1/8 worth of compression in the charge when the bullet is seated. NO LOOSE POWDER! ! ! ! Loose powder in the casing or in any muzzle loader causes the pressure to spike far higher than it would if compressed.
If you want to run with reduced power black powder rounds the right way is to pour in the reduced power powder charge then "cap" it with a charge of filler such as oat bran or cream of wheat so the bullet still produces a lightly compressed charge.
A modern casing in .45Colt will have room for roughly 35 to 40 grains of black powder behind a 200gn cast bullet. Again this is going to produce a pretty healthy bump to the hand but it won't come close to what you'd feel with a .44Mag.
In case you're not aware it's important with loading ANY black powder cartridges that the casing MUST be filled to the point where you get roughly 1/16 to 1/8 worth of compression in the charge when the bullet is seated. NO LOOSE POWDER! ! ! ! Loose powder in the casing or in any muzzle loader causes the pressure to spike far higher than it would if compressed.
If you want to run with reduced power black powder rounds the right way is to pour in the reduced power powder charge then "cap" it with a charge of filler such as oat bran or cream of wheat so the bullet still produces a lightly compressed charge.
