The PC thing is wearing off on me. They shoot well, keep the gun clean and seem accurate, not one complaint from me about how they work. My complaint is actually coating them. Messy business and I will not do two coats, way too time consuming. I also have a Star sizer which is way faster than doing the PC stuff. To top it off I came up from the dungeon and was accused of fooling around with a Smurf (I was using blue). I will keep it for odd calibres I don't have dies for but that's about it. If interested, you can get an oven from Walmart for about $30 delivered plus tax.