Quick question: 870 barrels
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Does anyone know if a 16 or 16 1/2" barrel exists? I'm planning a build and 16" would be perfect.
Thanks
Are you talking a factory one???
the Grizzly mag-fed came with a 15" 870 compatible barrel but that's the closest your going to get.
Someone was selling 16" barrels on gunnutz years ago but the RCMP cancelled the FRT# as it was determined they were homemade and not a factory option.
Someone was selling 16" barrels on gunnutz years ago but the RCMP cancelled the FRT# as it was determined they were homemade and not a factory option.
Homemade, they were police guns that the armourers had chopped to 16". Not illegal for the police to do but then they sold them and once they realized what they had done they tried to tell people they were in possesion of a prohib and to turn it over for destruction. Luckily the smart ones simply removed the offending barrel rather than lose the whole gun.
No factory barrels at 16" I'm afraid. I'd like to get one made one day since 16" with the factory Remington folder is just over 26".
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I thought that Remingtondid manufacture
16in Leo barrels for a while??
I saw some several yrs back. They were 16in with factory rifle sights and mod choke. The guns I saw were blued 2 3/4 receivers with police hardwood stocks. They were part of a large group from a Govt auction. I was told they were from Corrections Canada.
They were $200 ea !!! I actually passed on them at the time!!!
I thought that Remingtondid manufacture
16in Leo barrels for a while??
I saw some several yrs back. They were 16in with factory rifle sights and mod choke. The guns I saw were blued 2 3/4 receivers with police hardwood stocks. They were part of a large group from a Govt auction. I was told they were from Corrections Canada.
They were $200 ea !!! I actually passed on them at the time!!!
Remington never produced 16 inch barrels for commercial sales, but they have and do produce any length when requested by LE, Gov. and Mil. agencies.
If some of those barrels found their way onto the commercial market, the fault lies with the agency that resold, or allowed such barrels onto the commercial market. One of the manufacturer's sale stipulations is that LE/GOV/MIL agencies acquire these barrels for their use ONLY and not for resale. Commercial or otherwise. At least in Canada anyway. If it was sold in the States and made its way across the border, it made its way into Canada illegally.
Purchasing one of these barrels from the EE for instance, can be a slippery slope. Anyone can cut a barrel and sell it as a factory original by reasoning it was an agency manufactured barrel now in civilian hands.
As a civilian, unless you have supporting documentation of its original "commercial" provenance being an original factory barrel with a sales receipt from one of the agencies mentioned, I would not touch one with a ten foot pole. Even then, the agency is not abiding by the stipulations surrounding them and the barrel's legal possession and should not be selling them on the commercial market.
If some of those barrels found their way onto the commercial market, the fault lies with the agency that resold, or allowed such barrels onto the commercial market. One of the manufacturer's sale stipulations is that LE/GOV/MIL agencies acquire these barrels for their use ONLY and not for resale. Commercial or otherwise. At least in Canada anyway. If it was sold in the States and made its way across the border, it made its way into Canada illegally.
Purchasing one of these barrels from the EE for instance, can be a slippery slope. Anyone can cut a barrel and sell it as a factory original by reasoning it was an agency manufactured barrel now in civilian hands.
As a civilian, unless you have supporting documentation of its original "commercial" provenance being an original factory barrel with a sales receipt from one of the agencies mentioned, I would not touch one with a ten foot pole. Even then, the agency is not abiding by the stipulations surrounding them and the barrel's legal possession and should not be selling them on the commercial market.
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It is a completely ludicrous system to be sure.
Worse is regardless if you have intent or documentation at the end of the day you will be subject to seizure, legal grief and expense which will ultimately get refereed by a biased, left wing minion of the system.
Ranting aside, I believe the barrels I was speaking of were produced by remington en mass for a particular contract. Very likely as mentioned they were not commercially available and were resold by the end user without regard for the buyer's predicament. Frankly, at the time I saw these guns on the market there was none of the ridiculous legislation currently existant and the issue would have been mute...at that time.
Frankly, when it comes to seizure time the burden will be on the owner to defend the "status" of the barrel. Highly unlikely it will get resolved at the point of cops/owner interaction either. as usual it will more likely be a seizure, poss charge and left to the circus of the biased left wing courts to process.
It is a completely ludicrous system to be sure.
Worse is regardless if you have intent or documentation at the end of the day you will be subject to seizure, legal grief and expense which will ultimately get refereed by a biased, left wing minion of the system.
Ranting aside, I believe the barrels I was speaking of were produced by remington en mass for a particular contract. Very likely as mentioned they were not commercially available and were resold by the end user without regard for the buyer's predicament. Frankly, at the time I saw these guns on the market there was none of the ridiculous legislation currently existant and the issue would have been mute...at that time.
Frankly, when it comes to seizure time the burden will be on the owner to defend the "status" of the barrel. Highly unlikely it will get resolved at the point of cops/owner interaction either. as usual it will more likely be a seizure, poss charge and left to the circus of the biased left wing courts to process.
I don't really see the point. If you want a barrel shorter than 18", just get a 14" barrel. Pattern is a function of choke and the velocity difference between a 14" and 16" barrel will be small.
A 14" barrel will allow for a +1 magazine extension and an 18" barrel will allow for a +2 extension. A barrel length in between the two would simply be longer without the ability to accommodate a longer magazine than with the shorter barrel.
A 14" barrel will allow for a +1 magazine extension and an 18" barrel will allow for a +2 extension. A barrel length in between the two would simply be longer without the ability to accommodate a longer magazine than with the shorter barrel.
Youre right, i've got quite a few Remington LE Catalog since the 80s and nowhere you can see a 16'' barrel for the 870 as an option.
We all now that anything can be done custom made, but how do you want to prove it if it's not in a catalog somewhere?
The one we had in Canada was a small batch, maybe 10 to 20 guns ( i remember seen them for sale), they could have been done by an armorer so the guns could fit in a car rack, who knows.
And yes they had factory rifle sights on them.
I remember in the 70s, the Montreal and New York SWAT teams had Ithaca 37 pump with 14'' barrels and factory rifled sights, those were custom made at the time as they were not standard catalog item.
I wish Dlask ( or NEA) could make a 13'' barrel for an Ithaca 37
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