Quick run down on German milsurps?

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So I have pretty much every red rifle, a k31, enfield and all that but I know next to nothing about German milsurps or the ammo they use?

I know of the k98 and 8mm but does anyone have a link I can read up more on German milsurps that are available to us? What should I buy first and is ammo readily available? Again I know nothing haha I but it's good I love learning about (and buying) new rifles.

Thanks.
 
I like this site, among others:

http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/indexen.html

Most of what's around now are Russian captures, and the Soviets didn't care about matching numbers or ruining an original finish with a dip blue.

Unfortunately I've found collecting K98k difficult as there aren't a lot of great examples available for less than a pile of money. Speaking to my Father-in-law (now 70), the country was awash in Mausers in the 60s and into the 70s. Unfortunately they weren't really viewed as collectibles, and many of them wound up sporterized and the basis for many a great deer guns...

Surplus 8mm ammo is getting very hard to come by, isn't cheap, and is usually corrosive. The Yugo surplus is all I've seen around. New manufactured ammo is available, but is $1 a round or more...

There's tons of info, but your pockets will need to be much deeper than it was for the Reds!

Good luck!
 
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A quick list of German milsurps from 1871 to roughly 1950s
Mauser M1871
Mauser M1871/84
Commission 1888 Rifle
Gewehr 1898
K98k
G41
K43

This is in no way a complete list, and doesn't even begin to go down the route of separating the carbines and rifles etc, this is just the generic list of main issue rifles. If you want more depth there are things like the 98/40s, 1888 commission carbines, you can find that information yourself as there is so many different variants and rabbit holes to follow if you so desire it.
All the major rifles from the 1888 Commission rifle onwards used 8mm Mauser*, the earlier ones used .43 Mauser.
Most of these you can only find on places like the EE, gun shows, etc., as they aren't being surplused anymore (already having being sold off or destroyed).

Hope this helps.


*for the Commission rifles and early M98 Mausers they used a .318 bore instead of the modern .323 bore
 
I hope you have really deep pockets as well as several large gun safes. If you decide to collect a certain type or types like the 71,88,89,91,93,94,95,96.98 that will set you back about $10,000 for very good to excellent examples and maybe much more. If you decide you want to collect the variants as well you may need to mortgage your home and if she is saleable maybe set your wife out on the street in high heels and short skirts.
 
Yup expensive.

Yup tough to find

There isn't an end all page to read. It takes on going research for years to get good with these guns
 
Handguns aren't as bad. You can still pick up a P38 for a fairly reasonable price and Radoms aren't too bad either. Not much chance of finding a restricted rebarelled Luger or German Hi Power for under $1000 these days. Lots of good options out there if you have 12(6) though - many different types of .32. In terms of higher value pistols there's the Artillery Luger or Reivhsrevolver which will probably run $1500 + in today's market.
 
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