quick storage question

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Hey guys just got a quick question for you.
Just bought 36 gun safe at Canadian tire on sale.

I'm aware that originally you had to have your guns and ammo in different locked containers.

But from what I can recall I was under the impression that rule was change after the police tried to charge the man in London Ontario for unsafe storage of a firearm during an inncodent where he was having a land dispute with the neighbor and he woke up to the sound of Molotov cocktails being thrown at him home....
I can't remember his name but all charges were dropped after a lengthy court battle. But I believe that the judge stated he didn't care where there guns or ammo was stored. As long as it was all locked up

Does anybody know for sure?
 
TDC is correct sort of.

Here is the law on ammo:

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/page-87.html#h-101

This is the section specifically you have to think about:

281. (1) When small arms cartridges are stored in a dwelling, they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition. People not authorized by the user must not be given unlimited access to the cartridges.

How you accomplish that is up to you and what that actually means no one knows until there is some precedent set.

Shawn
 
Hey guys just got a quick question for you.
Just bought 36 gun safe at Canadian tire on sale.

I'm aware that originally you had to have your guns and ammo in different locked containers.

But from what I can recall I was under the impression that rule was change after the police tried to charge the man in London Ontario for unsafe storage of a firearm during an inncodent where he was having a land dispute with the neighbor and he woke up to the sound of Molotov cocktails being thrown at him home....
I can't remember his name but all charges were dropped after a lengthy court battle. But I believe that the judge stated he didn't care where there guns or ammo was stored. As long as it was all locked up

Does anybody know for sure?

I do believe you're talking about the Ian Thompson case.


Behold the wall of text!

The short version is that either the firearm or the ammunition must be in a locked container. Ergo, if you have your NR rifle with a trigger lock on it, leaning against the wall, you're not allowed to have a stack of ammo next to it unless that ammo is stored in a container. Or you can put both in the same container and leave out the trigger lock.


http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/

STORAGE OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS

5.#(1)#An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if

(a)#it is unloaded;

(b)#it is

(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,

(ii)#rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or

(iii)#stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and

(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.

(2)#Paragraph (1)(b) does not apply to any individual who stores a non-restricted firearm temporarily if the individual reasonably requires it for the control of predators or other animals in a place where it may be discharged in accordance with all applicable Acts of Parliament and of the legislature of a province, regulations made under such Acts, and municipal by-laws.

(3)#Paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) do not apply to an individual who stores a non-restricted firearm in a location that is in a remote wilderness area that is not subject to any visible or otherwise reasonably ascertainable use incompatible with hunting.

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6.#An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a)#it is unloaded;

(b)#it is

(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii)#stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i)#a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii)#a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.

STORAGE OF PROHIBITED FIREARMS

7.#An individual may store a prohibited firearm only if

(a)#it is unloaded;

(b)#it is

(i)#rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, and, if the prohibited firearm is an automatic firearm that has a removable bolt or bolt-carrier, the bolt or bolt-carrier is removed and stored in a room that is different from the room in which the automatic firearm is stored, that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii)#stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c)#it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i)#a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii)#a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of prohibited firearms and that is kept securely locked.

DISPLAY OF NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS

8.#An individual may display a non-restricted firearm only if it

(a)#is unloaded;

(b)#is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device or is in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and

(c)#is not displayed with and is not readily accessible to ammunition that can be discharged from it.

DISPLAY OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS AND PROHIBITED FIREARMS

9.#(1)#An individual may display a restricted firearm or a prohibited firearm in a dwelling-house only if

(a)#the restricted firearm or prohibited firearm is unloaded;

(b)#the restricted firearm or prohibited firearm is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device;

(c)#the restricted firearm or prohibited firearm is securely attached to a non-portable structure in such a manner that it cannot readily be removed;

(d)#the restricted firearm or prohibited firearm is not displayed with and is not readily accessible to ammunition that can be discharged from it; and

(e)#in the case of an automatic firearm that has a removable bolt or bolt-carrier, the bolt or bolt-carrier is removed and stored in a room that is different from the room in which the automatic firearm is displayed, that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.

(2)#An individual may display a restricted firearm in a place other than a dwelling-house only if it

(a)#is unloaded;

(b)#is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device;

(c)#is, subject to subsection (4), securely attached to a structure on which it is displayed by a chain, metal cable or similar device in such a manner that the restricted firearm cannot readily be removed; and

(d)#is not displayed with and is not readily accessible to ammunition that can be discharged from it, unless the ammunition is displayed in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.

(3)#An individual may display a prohibited firearm in a place other than a dwelling-house only if

(a)#the prohibited firearm is unloaded;

(b)#the prohibited firearm is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device;

(c)#the prohibited firearm is, subject to subsection (4), securely attached to a structure on which it is displayed by a chain, metal cable or similar device in such a manner that the prohibited firearm cannot readily be removed;

(d)#the prohibited firearm is not displayed with and is not readily accessible to ammunition that can be discharged from it, unless the ammunition is displayed in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and

(e)#in the case of an automatic firearm that has a removable bolt or bolt-carrier, the bolt or bolt-carrier is removed and stored in a room that is different from the room in which the automatic firearm is displayed, that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.

(4)#Paragraphs (2)(c) and (3)(c) do not apply if the firearm is detached from the structure so that the firearm may be handled by a person under the direct and immediate supervision of the individual displaying it.
 
Sweet thanks for the info guys.

Unfortunately just tried to get it down my stairs and its an inch too big. So she is going back.
 
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