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wheelin_ca

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basically I got permission to hunt/control coyotes on a piece of land, but im afraid my 270 is a little too loud for the neighbors.

Obviously a .223 would probably be quietest, but I am looking for something to replace the 270 with, therefore I would prefer something capable of taking Ontario deer

is a 243, 25-06, 6.5x55 etc quieter than a 270win???

my 270 is a savage 111fcxp3 if that matters

.....oh and i dont reload, so that isnt really an option
 
If a 270 is going to piss of the neighbours than so will all the other calibers you mentioned. For properties in more built up areas a .22 mag is the best bet, a lot less noise and still has the killing power at the ranges commonly shot at on the smaller peices of land.
 
My 243 seems way louder than either of my 308s. I think it will be hard to find a quiete centre fire without performing some form of loading it down skull duggery.
 
ok thanks guys... i guess i was just hoping for the best... I will probably keep my 270 for now.

I already have the crossbow for deer, as well as a shotgun i could use...

oh well.. the neighbors will get used to it... its not like im shooting lots of rounds... maybe 1-2 per day if im lucky lol
 
When I go out I honestly can't tell the difference in sound between my .223, .308, 12ga... They all sound about the same loudness to me.

I pretty well agree with the exception of the really small capacity rounds such as 22 Hornet or 25-20. Rimfire is where you start to really see a difference.

Coyote hunting are you really likely to take more than 1 or 2 shots a day though? Is it really worth being worried about the noise thing if you are in an area where it is legal to discharge a firearm?
 
The problem with all of these rounds mentioned, is that the bullets all break the sound barrier when fired. If you want to keep the shots quiet, you have to reduce the speed of your projectiles. There are two ways of doing this. One, use an extremely slow powder, tough to do in a 270 and still get the velocity down enough. Two, use a filler (Grex, cotton filler) between the powder and bullet. This way you can experiment with velocity and noise.

The third way is to get another rifle and rechamber to one of the "Whisper" rounds. This uses a very heavy bullet in a small case, with a reduced powder charge, in a long barrel.

I have a "357 Whisper" on a martini action. It is quiet and accurate. It also has a trajectory like a rainbow. The heavy bullets help the trajectory but really penetrate. With the low velocity, they hold together completely and you must be extremely careful to make sure there is nothing behind your target. I've shot 300gr cast bullets out to 250m and the bullets will go right through a 12in block of dry larch.
 
.223 with Blue Dot loads are supposed to be fairly quiet. I'm going to load some up this spring and try them out.
 
They are all loud when you are near them, but the big cals do carry a lot further. 223 would be one of best for not cayying sound too far. (haven't tried the whisper stuff) tried Stealth Round ammo and it is Garbage.

I would say to talk to the neighbors and give them a heads up, and if they hear anything they will know what is going on.

If that's not an option, I'd go with the lite cals like 223 and after firing one or two shots head home.

i know from expereience that a 270 will carry sound way farther than a 22-250. And rimfire, like a 22mag is even quieter further out.
 
If you've got a licence and Permission during a valid season, then who the hell cares what the neighbors hear.:sniper: Or is this another capitulation to appease the non/anti hunters. It's our privilage and if people don't like it they can stuff it.
 
This only works well for black powder cartridges such as .45-70, 38-55, 44-40, etc. ...... if you use a longer barrelled gun (i.e. at least 24", preferably 26" or longer, and you use a faster powder like Unique and slightly reduced load, you really reduce the bang. On the down side, the more quieter the load, the shorter the range. The has been discussion on this forum of quiet or silent loads if you really want to go to that extreme, but then your ranges really get reduced. Beat hunter talked about this above.
 
If you've got a licence and Permission during a valid season, then who the hell cares what the neighbors hear.:sniper: Or is this another capitulation to appease the non/anti hunters. It's our privilage and if people don't like it they can stuff it.

:agree: A few years ago some hunters started having the same problems in places here on Vancovuer Island.

Most of the complainers where retired people from Toronto. :rolleyes:
 
I have a loooong barreled 6.5x55 swede that is very quiet. Its a real pleasure to shoot, flat shooting and a hard hitter too!
 
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