R22 Problems? Anyone else suffering?

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Sorry boys, but I picked up the last one from TSE :)

Just got a scope mounted on it tonight, and I am off to play with it some more.

I have been having some issues with it. I seem to get lots of light primer strikes and FTFs with mine. Out of about 300 rounds, I had nearly 70 failures.

Basically, I would have a light strike every second round.

I was using the steel lip 25rnd Butler creek mags, and Remington T22 ammo.

I am taking it out again tommrow to run some CCI mini mag though it to see if it makes a difference.
 
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Try and find some Federal #745 or 710. That is the Champion bulk packed 36gr copper plated hollowpoint, and the Gameshock 40 gr solid plated.

That will likely cure most of the feeding problems.

Some other owners are having problems with light strikes. (I am not)

It seems the Ruger bolt can have a problem with the firing pin tip trying to cam upwards when struck, resulting in high edge strikes. Rhineland seem to have taken a cue from the experts at RimfireCentral.com, and staked the channel to force the pin to stay down. This doesn't always work 100%. Another Rhineland suggested cure is to strip the gun, and back out the recoil spring screw one full rotation. It may allow a better angle of travel.
 
Canuck223 said:
Try and find some Federal #745 or 710. That is the Champion bulk packed 36gr copper plated hollowpoint, and the Gameshock 40 gr solid plated.

That will likely cure most of the feeding problems.

Some other owners are having problems with light strikes. (I am not)

It seems the Ruger bolt can have a problem with the firing pin tip trying to cam upwards when struck, resulting in high edge strikes. Rhineland seem to have taken a cue from the experts at RimfireCentral.com, and staked the channel to force the pin to stay down. This doesn't always work 100%. Another Rhineland suggested cure is to strip the gun, and back out the recoil spring screw one full rotation. It may allow a better angle of travel.
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Which is the recoil spring screw?

I was suggested to do this by the folks at Rhineland

"Thrid, you can adjust the set screw that holds the firing pin rod in
place. Usually you can back it out 1 full turn and this can change the
impact of the firing pin."

Is this the same screw we are talking about? If so, I am kinda dense, and would love if someone either supplied me with a picture, or descibed its location to me. Thanks!
 
No problem, you can see it from outside the gun. Look at the top of the reciever where it meets the rail, left side of the gun. If you need a reference, it's in a straight line with the trigger pin hole.

If you take the gun apart, you will find that inside the reciever, the recoil spring guide uses this screw as it's stop. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as screwing it out, as it has been milled with a flat contact pad. You will need to take off the shroud and the lower reciever.

Have a look to make sure that by backing it up one turn, you'll still be able to mount the shroud. A little filing of the top of the screw is likely ok, but don't go silly with the file.
 
Canuck223 said:
No problem, you can see it from outside the gun. Look at the top of the reciever where it meets the rail, left side of the gun. If you need a reference, it's in a straight line with the trigger pin hole.

If you take the gun apart, you will find that inside the reciever, the recoil spring guide uses this screw as it's stop. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as screwing it out, as it has been milled with a flat contact pad. You will need to take off the shroud and the lower reciever.

Have a look to make sure that by backing it up one turn, you'll still be able to mount the shroud. A little filing of the top of the screw is likely ok, but don't go silly with the file.
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Ahh, thanks allot. It all seems so simple now, haha. For some reason, I got it into my head that the set screw was on the bolt *embarassed*. I am going to give the rifle another test run tommrow with the CCI mini mag, and I am going to pick up some of the recommended Federal ammo.

Once I get that winning combination of ammo in there, I am going to be laughing (and the gophers crying *evil*)
 
I'm getting about 10% fire rate with mine, I' can't comment on FTF or FTE as the gun won't shoot more than one round then click click click click etc etc.
The problem is the firing is just about missing the rim of the case. Its striking way too high, so far I've moved the barrel in and out one turn. I turned the recoil set screw out a turn like Canuck223 explained but nothing has made a difference.
Now all bored R22 owners I ask you to do a test for me.
Strip your gun down so your down to bolt in reciever with no recoil spring asm. Feed a round by hand on the bolt so it seat perfectly and you can see its going to be a good strike. Slid the bolt forward by hand to chamber the round.
This where it goes wrong for me as the round chambers it moves down and away from the pin. Anyone else have this problem?
Just a note, The Guys at TSE are more than willing for me to send the R22 back to them so they can fix it for me but I hate giving up
Robert
 
R22

Tell me if there is something wrong with this picture R22 = $600 and the P.O.S. won't feed?
I think I will wait till they work out the bugs before I spend the bucks. Thought only Norincos needed final fitting and polish before its was usable guess not.
 
Mine must have been made for Law Enforcement and sent to me by mistake since it fires lovely bursts of 3 , 4 , or sometimes even 5 rounds no matter what kind of ammo in the mag and no matter whether Hot or Steel Lips.
Everyone at the range wanted to shoot it beacuse of this until we all were thrown out of the range for using illegal firearm.
It's back at TSE to convert it back to semi but wouldn't it become CA now?
 
Kasat said:
Mine must have been made for Law Enforcement and sent to me by mistake since it fires lovely bursts of 3 , 4 , or sometimes even 5 rounds no matter what kind of ammo in the mag and no matter whether Hot or Steel Lips.
Everyone at the range wanted to shoot it beacuse of this until we all were thrown out of the range for using illegal firearm.
It's back at TSE to convert it back to semi but wouldn't it become CA now?
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Mine only has done that once, it ripped a FA 10 round stream. So problems since that though.

I still have yet to take it to the range again, and run those CCI mini mags though it. I am hoping that all my problems will dissapear!
 
Update:

Ok, I ran that CCI mini-mag though the rifle tonight. Much better performance then the other ammo I have been using. Out of 200 rounds, I only had 20 FTF;s. Still, not working 100%. I am getting a little worried now, as I have run somewhere in area of 1000+ rounds though the rifle (Hoping it would just "break-in"). When it does shoot, its bloody acurate though, I was impressed by the precision of the rifle.

Next, I am going to run some of that Federal Gameshock though the beast, and see what happens.
 
The only thing I can even relate this to is when I had a Ruger 22/45 pistol... I bought a reduced power hammer spring and I was getting 1 FTF (light primer strike) every 10-20 shots. Very annoying and wasteful.

It sounds like the R22 firing pin is not hitting the rim hard enough - is missing the rim comepletely - or, is damaged somehow.

Good luck!
 
I've had some magazine feed issues, which were solved by buying the steel lipped mags. Otherwise mine has fed and fired perfectly. I've had no failures at all when a round was in the chamber.
 
I also will wait for a shipment or 2 comes in and some of these problems are addressed at the factory end .

I don't see what the problem is with the thing ocassionally going FA unless it becomes uncontrollable but with a .22 I don't see this as a problem .However would the owner be held liable for owning a machinegun ?
 
MikeyT said:
I've had some magazine feed issues, which were solved by buying the steel lipped mags. Otherwise mine has fed and fired perfectly. I've had no failures at all when a round was in the chamber.
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I have very few feeding problems (I use Steel lip mags as well), I just seem to suffer from lots of light primer strikes. I tried all the fixes that the Rhineland guys mentioned, with no luck. I emailed them again, and am still waiting for a response on what to do.

I was just curious to see if anyone else was having the same problems I was, and if they were, what they did to overcome them.
 
I am having all the same fte ftf problems as everyone else, but today I noticed one more thing the barrel is not centered in the handguard!! Something seems to be out of square. I tried dis/re assembling the rifle thinking it might be because of the play in the bolt holes but I could not correct it. My barrel is a few mm closer to the edge of the hanguard on one side than the other??? Anyone else have this problem?

I wonder how much this will change the POI at 100? I kinda zeroed the scope at 25 and have been concentrating on fixing all the feeding/ejecting problems. I noticed it when I started stripping it for cleaning tonite!
 
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