RA XCR-L light barrel accuracy issues????

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Im still pondering if i should take the plunge and get an xcr in 762x39 for my plinking fun run n gun varminter work horse range toy. i was in Edmonton and had a lot of time to kill, so i decided to go to every gun store they had to find a xcr-l in light barrel and heavy barrel to compare. But every store only had heavy barrels!? i asked why and they all said that they only special order the light barrels because they have too much barrel whip and ruin the xcr accuracy???

Does anyone have any experience with this? anyone test it? how much moa difference is there? i didnt find the front weight of the keymod with heavy barrel too bad. definitely better balanced than a sks. So which is the better barrel to get? accuracy is important to me, but i do walk around with my guns a lot too. What would you do?

thanks
 
Most of my shooting is within 100 yards unsupported, but my light-barrel XCR certainly seems accurate enough for that kind of shooting - I regularly nail the pop cans I'm aiming at. Depends what kind of shooting you want to do, and what kind of accuracy you're looking for.
 
The accuracy of the XCR is "medium range battle effective" at most. The pencil barrel certainly won't help but I don't think it will hurt enough to be a problem either. If you plan on lighting match tips on fire at 500y you are looking into the wrong platform.
 
Ya i know this isnt a match bolt action rifle.... but if a heavy barrel is say, 1.5 moa and the light is 3... i find that quite a difference. But if its only a .5 moa or less difference,then i dont care.
 
kykamo said:
Ya i know this isnt a match bolt action rifle.... but if a heavy barrel is say, 1.5 moa and the light is 3... i find that quite a difference. But if its only a .5 moa or less difference,then i dont care.
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You'll notice more difference as the round count rises and the barrel starts to heat up. The first few shots probably won't be too much different between the two barrels. Chances are good they are both the exact same quality of barrel just cut to a lighter profile.

1.5moa from a semi auto shooting surplus 7.62x39? LMFAO, good luck with that one, maybe a one shot group.
 
cr5 said:
You'll notice more difference as the round count rises and the barrel starts to heat up. The first few shots probably won't be too much different between the two barrels. Chances are good they are both the exact same quality of barrel just cut to a lighter profile.

1.5moa from a semi auto shooting surplus 7.62x39? LMFAO, good luck with that one, maybe a one shot group.
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I get thats a dream with mil surp ammo, i was just giving an example. I would be very happy if it shot 2 moa, but i definitely dont want a 4" gun
 
here a target from 50yard on my xcr-l with romanian surplus ammo in brass case fast shooting ,

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Dad003 said:
here a target from 50yard on my xcr-l with romanian surplus ammo in brass case fast shooting ,

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What's your idea of fast?
That's some nice shooting for fast pace and letting the barrel get hot. I'd like to see it hold those 2-3 moa groups at 100yds :p
The XCR-L is usually not terrible for accuracy if you have the barrel torqued correctly and don't let it get hot but usually starts opening up quickly as it warms up.


kykamo said:
I get that's a dream with mil surp ammo, i was just giving an example. I would be very happy if it shot 2 moa, but i definitely don't want a 4" gun
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I figured you were just making more of a comparison between the two barrels and not actually expecting those numbers. The XCR-L's have historically been a sub 3moa rifle and some people have shown some groups around 1 moa but that's slow shooting and decent ammo and not consistent group after group. I've shot a few 223's and a 6.8SPC XCR and never seen anything I'd consider impressive but still not terrible and completely acceptable for predator hunting out to a couple hundred yards and maybe a bit more.

As always, if you want a 1 moa rifle and don't want to spend $3000+ you're pretty much limited to a bolt action. The HK SL8 series are very accurate but they're heavy and many people don't like the ergo's, I've owned three of them over the years and my favorite was the one with the Hera Arms lower and ACR stock. They can shoot 1 moa fairly consistently with premium ammo or handloads.
My current go to 223 class rifle is my ACR and with my NR 300BLK conversion it will shoot around 0.9 moa fairly consistently (McGowan stainless barrel), My NR 223 barrel is a Questar stainless 8 twist with Wylde chamber but I still haven't done much testing with it so don't know what it likes yet.
Lately all my load development energy has been focused on my Modern Hunter 6.5 Creedmore with Proof carbon wrapped barrel. I'm getting close to what I hope will be a consistent 1 moa or better load but need more time to continue refining my best load from the last string of testing.
Took three weeks off work starting Wednesday and will hopefully get plenty of time to make noise behind the shop on my range :)
 
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I've had both in 223, light and heavy, I still own my light barrel keymod, and I must say, I didn't see much difference in accuracy, but I'm no superstar either. The weight and balance is so much better on the light barrel and im not sure how much difference there is in actual weight but I must say it feels substantial. Way nicer all around for casual shooting, plinking, fun stuff.
 
cr5 said:
My current go to 223 class rifle is my ACR and with my NR 300BLK conversion it will shoot around 0.9 moa fairly consistently (McGowan stainless barrel), My NR 223 barrel is a Questar stainless 8 twist with Wylde chamber but I still haven't done much testing with it so don't know what it likes yet.
Lately all my load development energy has been focused on my Modern Hunter 6.5 Creedmore with Proof carbon wrapped barrel.
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you got a lot of nice toys
 
I'm not sure if it's a factor but I had a light barrel XCR l keymod, but at the time I had multiple other 223 semi's so I picked up a 6.8SPC conversion in a heavy profile. When I switched barrels after the set screw was loosened off the light pro barrel had a lot of room to move around in the receiver, pulled out like nothing, no resistance at all, the 6.8 barrel required some force to shove it all the way in though and takes a light pry to remove. I found the accuracy of the heavy barrel a lot better (granted its a different calibre and I never did side by side testing) but I'm convinced that tight receiver fit has something to do with it.
 
Why would you want 7.62x39 not inherintly accurate and less power than 30-30 other than cheap red ammo!
 
Lots of reason for the x39, it's a great round and if you're loading your own you can use the brass for 6.5 Grendel when it's out. I think most of us with XCR's aren't shooting for groups, but that's not to say you cant either.
 
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Why would you want 7.62x39 not inherintly accurate and less power than 30-30 other than cheap red ammo!
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CHEAP RED AMMOOOOO! but knowing i could convert it to other calibers if i want for different performance is nice. Actually, if i got an xcr, what i would do is start campaigning for some surplus 5.45! That would be awesome...sigh
 
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