Race Holster

PeterPan

PeterPan

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In my short IPSC life I have been using only CR Speed Holster.
While attending matches in different place I could see that this holster is a norm or standard.
In last few matches, my holster is loosing retention, it is still safe, but I think it is a time to get a new one.

I am looking at getting new CR Speed or JR if they still available or
new DAA.
If anyone who shoots SV/STI guns have an experience with DAA can you please say it, also if anyone from dealers can tell me what are the prons or cons of above design.

Thanks
DVC

Peter
 
DAA holster is the way to go. I checked out Sauls in Czech, and was very very impressed.
 
If you like the CR...why not just get a few replacement parts. The lever and retention insert (that grabs the trigger guard) do tend to get a but "bendy" after a while. Sean should have replacement parts (assuming the rest of the Holster is still in good shape)



PeterPan said:
In my short IPSC life I have been using only CR Speed Holster.
While attending matches in different place I could see that this holster is a norm or standard.
In last few matches, my holster is loosing retention, it is still safe, but I think it is a time to get a new one.

I am looking at getting new CR Speed or JR if they still available or
new DAA.
If anyone who shoots SV/STI guns have an experience with DAA can you please say it, also if anyone from dealers can tell me what are the prons or cons of above design.

Thanks
DVC

Peter
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Thanks Rob,

What I like about CR is that plastic piece protecting the slide from the back and barrel resting on pin. For adjustability CR is not that great, but then again, most of great shooters use CR holsters.
 
I have sold several of them, I also have one for myself and have used it on several occasions, at this time I personally can't decide if its better than the Ghost I been using for 10 years. Peter if you want to see it I can bring my own to the shop as I am all sold out of the once.

Josko
 
O "crap", I did not know that anyone imports them from DAA and I have just placed an order with Saul.
 
Peter,
Just got the new DAA a few months ago, used it at the Provincial, I think you will be happy with it. its compact and have a good retention. minus side- not as flexible as CR which will fit 1911SS,2011and Tang. DAA is more of a gun model specific unless you gonna get the insert, but DAA was design with 2011 in mind. so your good. francis
 
If you have been using CR Speed for years, I wouldnt change. There is nothing wrong with it. I know its fun to have new s**t, but if it aint broke, dont fix it

PS, I think you can get parts too for CR speed holsters, potentially saving you a hundred bucks
 
There is one issue with CR SPEED, need of safety while drawing pistol at very occured positions like starting seated or in tight quarters.
CR safety when applied is not easy to release while DAA can be used with safety on or off and also has an option of changing tension.

Time will show if my decission was right
 
I looked today at DAA holster. I liked it - it seems like retention mechanism is solid, and locking mechanism allows to keep gun locked and unlock during the draw, for those stages when you need to start in awkward position, or required to carry or throw some stuff with your strong hand.
Locking part is shaped after the trigger guard of selected model - which means it will be very hard / impossible to adapt to other model, but when locked gun should be very solid without any wobbling or anything.
 
PeterPan said:
There is one issue with CR SPEED, need of safety while drawing pistol at very occured positions like starting seated or in tight quarters.
CR safety when applied is not easy to release while DAA can be used with safety on or off and also has an option of changing tension.

Time will show if my decission was right
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I have always found the bonus of the CR speed is its excellent retention in the unlocked position. If adjusted properly, it should hold the gun under most if not all the circumstances we face in a course of fire. The DAA is neat though, I wouldnt mind trying one myself.
 
With the DAA you just buy new inserts to change to different gun models. No need to own multiple holsters.
When I run a race holster I never ever ever start with it locked (at least on purpose). The first thing you should always do, before you move, is grab your gun. The only exception is when your strong hand has to do some other task, such as pull a rope or something. Even then, grab the gun immediately after that task and before you start moving. The number of people I've seen get all jammed up trying to draw locked guns is pretty huge.
 
Slavex said:
When I run a race holster I never ever ever start with it locked (at least on purpose).
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The Ghost holster might be an exception from that. It has a quick unlock position, when lock is removed when your hand grips the gun. Though I am not sure it works for all hand positions.

Another thing I liked about Race Master is that you can slap your hand on top of the grip without a risk of gun falling out of the holster.
 
Slavex said:
The first thing you should always do, before you move, is grab your gun. The only exception is when your strong hand has to do some other task, such as pull a rope or something. Even then, grab the gun immediately after that task and before you start moving. The number of people I've seen get all jammed up trying to draw locked guns is pretty huge.
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Slavex,
I agree, hand on the grip of the pistol before, however watching top shooters I see that they are able to do both, get up from position and grasp the grip.
Last weekend in Virginia, my CR Speed start acting up on me. I have noticed first, when I was rehearsal stage with low port.
Pistol was locked and when I have bend down came loose and I almost lost it, if wouldn't be for the trigger lock.
That send a signal, I need to watch the holster for the remaining of the day and for next I will make adjustment in the hotel. Unfortunately after trying different things, holster was not tight and I was bit nervous about loosing it. Almost every time I have drawn it from any position but standing erect and hands relaxed, I had my eyesight on the holster. It slowed me but at least I didn't loose a gun and went home.

Here are two examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xRyquozpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7SwsXSn8ec
 
unless the right hand had to absolutely be THE one to do something before they could draw, it should be on the gun before anything else happens. grabbing your gun whilst moving is sure way to a crap grip, and therefor poor control of your gun.
 
euxx said:
The Ghost holster might be an exception from that. It has a quick unlock position, when lock is removed when your hand grips the gun. Though I am not sure it works for all hand positions.
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It does. The ghost has a two-position lock. One for range carry (rotated forward) and the other for quick release (rotated back). With the lock in either position, it is impossible to pull the gun clear of the holster, so it's very safe. In the quick release position, the middle finger just wipes it off when the hand comes into contact with the grip of the gun. Doesn't matter what type of draw stroke; if your hand hits the grip in anything like the correct position, the lock is just there.
 
If I was looking for a new holster I would check out Safariland. They have a new model (013 I think) that has a very secure locking system: toughest I have seen. In addition it gives a great draw. In the past I have tried to stay away from race holsters and stick to the blade tec’s as I felt they were more secure. (I have seen lots of guys drop their pistols and DQ at big matches!) My shooting partner has been trying to convince me to go with a Safariland model (he has used them since the mid 90’s) but I always had concerns about dropping my pistol using race holsters; especially during Multi gun matches. With the new locking mechanism this is no longer a concern. If I am required to use another gun before using my pistol, or do something with my strong hand, I lock the pistol in the holster on the “load and make ready” command. The pistol is not coming out until I deliberately draw it from the holster; and the draw is smooth. The locking mechanism is placed perfectly for your index finger to “unlatch” it while drawing your pistol and it is incredibly secure! I think you could lift me off the ground by the pistol without it coming out of the holster.

I have tried a bunch of “race” holsters and the Safariland is the only one I chose to use and recommend. I guess there is a reason Mike V. and Rob L. use Safariland!
 
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