A buddy of mine has a rifle (Enfield .303) that was cut down (stock) for some reason, he bought it from an older lady whos husband owned it. he got if for next to nothing and i was thinking about getting it from him, when it comes to synthetic stocks, which has the better fit? ATI or RamLine? anyone installed either? or both?
Ram Line or ATI
- Thread starter l.denison
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
I have been looking into these ATI stocks for a Mosin Nagant and have read a couple reveiws on the enfield model as well. Unfortunately they are all over the place. Many claim they are finding the stocks are slightly warped, and some to the point they are junk. I am not sure I want to gamble so I have refinished mine and am happy for now, but have found Boyds carries some really nice options. I think they have em for the Enfields as well.
The ATI seems to have a higher comb so that's better if you mount a scope - the No.4 Enfield action at least tends to make you mount the scope fairly high.
I've heard people swear by and at both the RamLine and ATI. I have an ATI that came already installed on a No.5 and it is defective - the forestock planes downward away from the barrel in front of the action, so that's one example of not a good fit.
I've heard people swear by and at both the RamLine and ATI. I have an ATI that came already installed on a No.5 and it is defective - the forestock planes downward away from the barrel in front of the action, so that's one example of not a good fit.
I put an ATI camo stock on a#4 Enfield which I gave to my son-in-law, and a black Ram-line on a 6.5x55 Swedish Husqvarna, which I have since sold. As I recalll, the ATI was quite a bit easier to fit, but that probably had as much to do with the rifles as with the stocks. It goes without saying, that both the ATI and the Ram-line are "economy" sporterising stocks. If the action and barrel being used are in reasonable shape, and are fitted carefully to either stock, the result should be a reasonable serviceable rifle. Some folks like one better than the other, and some find reasons for hating both, but if you're thinking economy, either one will do the trick.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
I have ordered several stocks from these guys, and they are always top notch.
w w w.boydsgunstocks.com/Sporterized-British-Lee-Enfield-s/149.htm
w w w.boydsgunstocks.com/Sporterized-British-Lee-Enfield-s/149.htm
The Weaver TO-1 has worked well enough on countless sportered Enfields despite using tip-off rings, which don't seem the best idea for a centrefire rifle. But it requires the action to be drilled and tapped, and if the metal on your Enfield is as original - i.e. not yet cut or drilled, barrel still full length - you should think about its value restored with full wood stocks and don't do that.
There are mounts that will work better and don't require any permanent alteration - B-Square, S&K, ATI, Armalon, Cad-Tech. They all use standard Weaver rings and they cost a bit more than a TO-1 but save a bit if you have to pay a gunsmith to install that since you can certainly install those others yourself.
There are mounts that will work better and don't require any permanent alteration - B-Square, S&K, ATI, Armalon, Cad-Tech. They all use standard Weaver rings and they cost a bit more than a TO-1 but save a bit if you have to pay a gunsmith to install that since you can certainly install those others yourself.
the metal is untouched, so if theres options to not drill that is the way i will go, is the ATI mount any good, saw them at my local gun shop, so this would mean i dont have to go with the tip off rings which i don't like the idea of anyway. what are boyds like to deal with i would love to go with wood
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I got a ATI stock for my No.1 Mark III. It looks great, fits great, and my rifle is more accurate now than before. It used to be all over the place, but now I can shoot a 1" moa at 100 yards with it. Then again, I did add a new scope as well, from a 4 power to a 3-9.
Of those I mentioned, the only one I can vouch for personally is the Cad-Tech. I have two, have used them on several No.4s and a No.5 and they worked as advertised. I like them. Some have said theirs wouldn't return to zero (it's two piece, you can remove the scope with half the mount to use the iron sights and it should still be good when you put it back) but mine do. Their worst characteristic that I have found is that they mount the scope quite high, and I answered this with a No.4T cheekpiece replica in one instance and in others with a Beartooth comb-raising kit. They are also not cheap and not easy to find in Canada. I got both of mine from the U.S. before all the export regulations tightened up. I saw one in the EE recently.
I've heard people say good and bad of the ATI and S&K mounts. Nothing that I can recall of the B-Square. The Armalon is well thought of, but also expensive. Marstar has listed a no-name that looks to me like a copy of the Armalon and it is cheaper, when they have it.
I have used both. Less than three weeks ago I installed an ATI on a No5 that bubba had done some work on years ago. The ATI stock went on without a hitch, certainly easier than the Ramline I put on a No4 years ago.
At the range, we discovered that the accuracy was significantly improved. I would buy one again.
It is for my buddy Bert's grandson. He thinks it is cool.
Ted
At the range, we discovered that the accuracy was significantly improved. I would buy one again.
It is for my buddy Bert's grandson. He thinks it is cool.
Ted
