rare PPK

Interesting PPK.

Too bad about the 12.6 laws, or you would have a valuable and desirable pistol. Sadly, PPK's do not meet the points required to enter the United States for importation.

Did the pistol have either of the original matching mags?

Really a shame these pieces of Canadian history are prohibited. If I were you I would just enjoy this as a collectors item that probably was not very expensive and buy another less historically important PPK for shooting at the range. You could always hope that perhaps someday the laws will change...

-Steve
 
Steve1987 said:
Interesting PPK.

Too bad about the 12.6 laws, or you would have a valuable and desirable pistol. Sadly, PPK's do not meet the points required to enter the United States for importation.

Did the pistol have either of the original matching mags?

Really a shame these pieces of Canadian history are prohibited. If I were you I would just enjoy this as a collectors item that probably was not very expensive and buy another less historically important PPK for shooting at the range. You could always hope that perhaps someday the laws will change...

-Steve
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Yes, i thought it couldn't go to the states, but one of the guys sent me this link http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/index.html
If work your way through the importation requirements, this one is on the list because of where it was made.

One mag is serial numbered, but not to this gun, but another ss pistol, the second mag is only marked with the Walther banner.
At least, as a pre 1946 prohib it can be inherited as a 12.7 class.
 
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nbanders said:
Pretty much. I just put it on the EE if anyones interested
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This whole post has been distracted. I called the owners/users creepy not the gun. It did what it was told.

Heck it's like blaming Africa for the Civil War for f**ks sake

Interested in selling? P.M. me thx
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Its like one of those dolls from the horror movies. They will haunt you until you can give it to somebody else. The catch is that you cant sell it, you have to give it away. And you basically have to trick them into taking it even though the doll is haunted lol.

Nice find. Would be worth a lot to a collector
 
I think the gun is a historical piece and has true collector value to remind us that these atrocities did happen, and in the end the owner of it paid the price for his past. Most SS troops captured by Canadian soldiers were shot on the spot, which is not right also.
So the pistol is a reminder of good that triumphed over evil and makes us think of the Evil man can do to his fellow man.
While in Bosnia as a Canadian soldier, I witness the aftermath of similar crimes against innocent civilians and it was in the 1990s.
The gun is just a reminder of the past and maybe a lesson that history some time repeats its self if we allow it to happen
 
The Allies "kill all SS" motto, which was instituted well before the discovery of the Camps, resulted in a lot of dead Heer Panzer soldiers too. Both sides had ignorant #######s shooting prisoners. Your Garand, carbine, Mosin, SVT or Lee Enfield could have war crime blood in its history too.
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I think the gun is a historical piece and has true collector value to remind us that these atrocities did happen, and in the end the owner of it paid the price for his past. Most SS troops captured by Canadian soldiers were shot on the spot, which is not right also.
So the pistol is a reminder of good that triumphed over evil and makes us think of the Evil man can do to his fellow man.
While in Bosnia as a Canadian soldier, I witness the aftermath of similar crimes against innocent civilians and it was in the 1990s.
The gun is just a reminder of the past and maybe a lesson that history some time repeats its self if we allow it to happen
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Recce21 said:
The Allies "kill all SS" motto, which was instituted well before the discovery of the Camps, resulted in a lot of dead Heer Panzer soldiers too. Both sides had ignorant #######s shooting prisoners. Your Garand, carbine, Mosin, SVT or Lee Enfield could have war crime blood in its history too.
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The Malmedy massacre and many others helped bring that on. It was ugly on all sides.

Retaliation against German prisoners

Knowledge of the massacre "led to considerable retaliation against German prisoners of war during and after that battle." Few Waffen-SS soldiers came to be taken prisoner by units such as the 3rd Armored Division. An example of the aftermath of the massacre is the written order from the HQ of the 328th US Army Infantry Regiment, dated December 21, 1944: "No SS troops or paratroopers will be taken prisoner but will be shot on sight." A possible example of a related large massacre against Germans is the Chenogne massacre. At the Saar river the 90th Infantry Division "executed Waffen-SS prisoners in such a systematic manner late in December 1944 that headquarters had to issue express orders to take Waffen-SS soldiers alive so as to be able to obtain information from them."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre
 
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I agree that atrocities were committed by both sides. Such is the nature of war and as we know, history is written by the victors.
However, shooting enemy combatants, especially those known to have committed war crimes, rank a liiiiiittle lower on the morality scale vs. the murder of defenseless geriatrics, women and children in my books. I understand the gun is a tool and can be used for good or bad. As we say, guns don't kill people, people kill people but this PPK still gives me the heebeegeebees!! Like I said in my previous post, it is a historical keepsake to remind us of our past and humankind's ability to be evil. Keep it and its records together to remind the future generation of our history.
PS I agree that there are Mosins, Garands etc that have committed crimes against humanity but the difference in this case is that we KNOW where this particular gun was. I would not want a known Mosin or SVT if it was documented to be in the hands of an American or Russian death squad either. In the case of all used or milsurp firearms, ignorance is truly bliss!
 
Maybe I'm a sick sum b!tch, but I'd buy it if I was lisenced for it and I'd pay a premium knowing it's history and rarity. It's terrible what the organization did, but the pistol is rich with history. I'd love to have it.
 
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