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I think you are attributing our historical economic position to innovation and productivity and I don't agree. Instead, I would simply insert our true ace in the hole: natural resources.
We have had a few notable, significant kicks at the innovation and productivity can: Avro, Dehavilland, Nortel. All have crashed and burned before sustaining any real contribution to the country.
That looks suspiciously like a Cooey Model 39 was put in that stock. It hurts my soul to think it is, and the original walnut stock has been discarded in favour of synthetics. My very first rifle given to me as a birthday present by my Mom & Dad about 65 years ago. Still have the box it came in with the sticker they missed still on it: "Vic ####'s Sports And Hardware|$7.00". Still the very best and most exciting and memorable present I ever got anytime in my life.
I can't begin to guess how many Canadian kids got started shooting with a Cooey Model 39. Seemed like every kid in our town of about 400 people had a Cooey Model 39 - maybe it was just that Vic #### was a great salesman for Cooey, or he knew his customers and stocked .22 rifles they could afford for their kids. When you got older, there were wooden barrels in the store sitting on the hardwood floor that had Lee Enfields, P14 and 17s, and Mausers in them to choose from when the kids got older. I'm not sure, but I think they were priced at $25, take your pick. A few years later, my next rifle was a P17 out of one of those barrels... which I also still have pretty much the same as Dad set it up for me, including the Stith scope mount and Weaver scope from the '60s.
I have an extremely spendy Anschutz 1804 match rifle that was well north of $1,000 when I bought it new sometime around maybe 40 years ago; if I miss with that rifle, guaranteed it's not the rifle. I put a lot of rounds through that rifle with a Silhouette stock on it and belly shooting with the original stock and Anschutz aperture sights. But more often than not, if I decide to take a short trip to work on a local farmer's gopher problems, I grab that Cooey. Stock is too short, but there's something special about plinking gophers with that rifle pretty much the same as I was doing 60+ years ago.
I'm somewhat insulated on the motorcycling front as I returned to motorcycling after leaving when my motocross days ended with a Yamaha WR250R when the bike was first released in 2008. A very capable lightweight 250cc bike for being a forestry road tourist.
You can get close to 80 mpg ambling along at dirt road speeds here in the Continental Divide, and three days away from gas stations flyfishing and camping along local rivers is easy with an additional fuel blivet along. The big expensive Orange Crush supertankers and similar bikes are a completely different market - and would add nothing to riding and exploring the local mining and logging roads but increased weight and lower milage. Honda has similar reasonably priced dual sport bikes in the 250 - 300 cc range; more than capable of doing the three hour commute between Canada and the US on the slab, not just a ride to pick up the mail. Dual sport riders have done the CDT and ridden across the Middle East on those bikes... adventure does not require bikes with $20k price tags on them.
So for the twilight years, my motorcycling adventures are still well within reach; no road bikes in my now nonexistent stable (although a member here has a Wee Strom I told him I want to buy if he ever sells it).
And aside from loading the number of hunting rounds required each year for big game, between powder coated cast bullets out of the Lee Enfield along with an 1895 Winchester and a 35 Whelen, most of my shooting itch is scratched with .22 rimfire out of an assortment of handguns and rifles. Cast/swaged pistol bullets purchased in bulk in the US are now much more expensive - but not to the point that is crazy as it is with primers.
Being lucky enough to have the choice to live in either Canada or the US - and own and shoot pretty much anything I want in Montana - I don't see any decrease in the interest in buying any kind of firearms here in the US, including The Evil Baby Killing AR15. And Glocks are still ubiquitous even in local farm and ranch stores. Lots of the guys I see browsing the gun section or completing their background check at Cabelas, Murdock's, Sportsman's, etc look to be in their 50's and beyond. Not just young single guys with money falling out of their pockets.
Primer and powder prices ARE coming down in Montana, as availability increases. .22 rimfire is becoming much more available and prices are also starting to drop. If I had to guess, even factoring in the latest Biden-flation, even if inflation rates were normal I don't think prices will ever get even remotely near where they were prior to Wuhan Flu a short four years ago. I had north of 30k of pistol and small rifle primers when Wuhan Flu hit and thought I had a comfortable cushion for whatever might come along. Now the stocks are almost depleted; while primer availability is increasing, at the pricing we're seeing now, I'll probably wish I had stockpiled four or five times as many primers.
My guess is that Canadian interest in firearms in shooting can also come back - if this country reverses the journey down the road of police state fascism that Prime Minister Racist Black Face and his Brother From Another Communist Mother, Dipper Singh have taken us down.
Anyways, life's lesson for the more experienced shooters out there is that a .22, including a single shot Cooey .22, can provide just as much fun in your 70's as they did when you were 7. No reloading costs involved.
You have a point it all depends on which news you listen too - I've found that the CBC sugar coats everything along with CTV media.
There’s a lot of similarities between motorcycles and guns. One of them is that money spent on customizing is sunk costs, you’re never getting that back. You can make that work in your favour; I like buying peoples “unique” rifle builds for 30-50 cents on the dollar. 50 cents is generous. Likewise I don’t pay for other peoples ideas of bike improvements.
Insurance is high in Saskatchewan but I only keep 2 insured for the riding season, and a few key-strokes will activate the others when I want them. My custom harley only costs 80 bucks a month because its registered as a home built. Gas costs money sure, but during the riding season I’ll put every mile on that I can on a bike instead of on my trucks. The fuel savings make up for the insurance costs, and most of the time I don’t need 3 tons or so of truck to get a quart of milk, or a jug of whiskey.
I bought a Mustang seat during the winter for 1000 bucks, but I can use that more than once. I ordered 2500 Nosler bullets a couple days ago and I can only use those once. Might get a couple months out of them if I’m lucky. Factor in powder, primers and barrel life at today’s prices and the hawgs seem like cheap entertainment. Not that I pay todays prices, but some poor bastards have to I guess.
My gun collection is worth many times what my motorcycle collection is worth; but thats not the entire point. The cost of running the bikes is considerably less than the price of shooting. People who don’t shoot very much probably wouldn’t understand.
great post. really puts it into Perspective .
RICK-That looks suspiciously like a Cooey Model 39 was put in that stock. It hurts my soul to think it is, "
You have a keen eye !
I picked up this model 39 as a hurting project. Missing parts , broken stock "at the Front"
I put way more time and effort into this poor little rifle than its worth.....but I like a challenge.
I cut the busted part off the front and made it look like the Newer style stock. Then I took the belt sander to the sides and bottom to square it up.
Then I filled and the gashes in the wood with fiberglass.
Put a butt pad on that I had handy and made it fit. found a extractor and rear sites. Re- blued it. fixed the bent Triger guard.
gave it 3 coats of grey primer sealer, then painted the leaf pattern on,..then 4 coats of True Oil.
so its a Hinz 57
You have a keen eye !
I picked up this model 39 as a hurting project. Missing parts , broken stock "at the Front"
I put way more time and effort into this poor little rifle than its worth.....but I like a challenge.
I cut the busted part off the front and made it look like the Newer style stock. Then I took the belt sander to the sides and bottom to square it up.
Then I filled and the gashes in the wood with fiberglass.
Put a butt pad on that I had handy and made it fit. found a extractor and rear sites. Re- blued it. fixed the bent Triger guard.
gave it 3 coats of grey primer sealer, then painted the leaf pattern on,..then 4 coats of True Oil.
so its a Hinz 57
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Not saying all hobbies aren't getting ridiculously expensive... but as far as Bikes & Bullets (good name for a new magazine)
Think we can all agree, they both eat up our 'disposable income' pretty damn fast !!!
I totally agree with you ... between my guns an ammo and my Harley any disposable income can disappear pretty dam fast. I remember when I bought my Harley new in 2006 at $30,000.00 my insurance was $830 a year all in and now 18 years later my bike still looks like new with 130,000 kms and my insurance is $1130.00 a year!!! Worth not even half what I paid for it.
I bought a new softail anniversary model when prices were over inflated. Got less than 1/2 back when I sold it, and was also paying WAY more for Plates
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They are if you wait long enough.
The discovery that a gun collector paid US$580,000 for a 1910 Winchester motorcycle at auction in August, 2013 offers a direct comparison between the perceptions of value of the gun and motorcycle markets: the motorcycle collector marketplace appears significantly undervalued by comparison to the gun marketplace and indeed, almost any other collectible marketplace.
Fixed it for you...
Plus, that was a pretty convenient shortening of my quote, eh? lol.
At the end of the days it's your money, do with it what you want.
Plus, that was a pretty convenient shortening of my quote, eh? lol.
At the end of the days it's your money, do with it what you want.
The thing about depreciators is they tend to hit a point where they bottom out, and losses from there will be little or nothing if condition is maintained. Rifles are like that. Custom builds are a great hobby for those who can take a tall stack of 100s, split it in half and light one half on fire. On the other hand the guy who buys it after is unlikely to lose much of anything. With bikes; we have a saying that the world is full of 10 year old Harleys with 10,000 kms for more or less $10,000. In either case there is decades of use left for the new owner with little capitol cost. Consumables though; like tires, barrels,gas , licences, insurance, range members, powder, bullets and primers , well that #### is gone forever.
Boats are another example. I’ve had more than a few of those and haven’t lost money on any of them. If my math is correct, that costs me nothing a year. Thats just about my favorite price.
This is a good point. I could easily sell my Toyota Tercel, my canoe, or most of my guns for more than I paid for em. Would I beat inflation? Now thats a whole other story...
