re: the business end of a No.4 rifle..!

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re: the business end of a No.4 rifle..!

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2 British Army Military Police are taking no chances, as they move Bergen Belsen concentration camp commandant Josef Kramer....note the rear MP with his No.4 rifle at his shoulder...and without a doubt a MKVII .303 cartridge is in the chamber..or as the Brits like to say.."A round up the spout"...and the MP beside Kramer, has his .38/200 revolver ready to fire a "Double Tap".....a "High Drama photo"..
 
Albert Pierrepont most likely was the last person he saw before the lever was pulled to open the trap.;)

On that note, Albert criticized the American hangmen for not getting it right because we turned the bastards the other way round and when they dropped, the trap swung back and hit them in the face on the way down.:D
 
John Sukey said:
Albert Pierrepont most likely was the last person he saw before the lever was pulled to open the trap.;)

On that note, Albert criticized the American hangmen for not getting it right because we turned the bastards the other way round and when they dropped, the trap swung back and hit them in the face on the way down.:D
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Yes,..thats typical Brit..don't like things too untidy..even when im going to wring your neck like a chicken....."I say old boy. its jolly well tea time":D
 
Pierrepont was very professional and seems to have acted on the belief that the condemned deserved the consideration of a quick execution with the least pain and fuss possible. I think he would have noticed that made it easier on everyone else involved, too.

Winston Churchill is reported to have remarked, not particularly in connection with executions, something to the effect of "If you have to kill a man, it costs you nothing to do so courteously."
 
Don't forget how good a little retribution feels. If all he got were a few loosened teeth on the way down, it wasn't enough by a long shot. There are times when there is absolutely no place for political correctness. That was one of them.
After all, Kramer was the epitome of Nazi political correctness, some say because he was following orders, he wasn't guilty of any criminal offenses. We all know right from wrong, duty or not, if he took a smack on the kisser on the way down, good on him.
 
bearhunter said:
Don't forget how good a little retribution feels. If all he got were a few loosened teeth on the way down, it wasn't enough by a long shot. There are times when there is absolutely no place for political correctness. That was one of them.
After all, Kramer was the epitome of Nazi political correctness, some say because he was following orders, he wasn't guilty of any criminal offenses. We all know right from wrong, duty or not, if he took a smack on the kisser on the way down, good on him.
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Actually, it set a precedent for the rest of the World.

A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.

Albert Pierrepont and Winston Churchill had it right, it does not show you to be a better man to degrade someone who is in their death throes. No matter how much they may deserve it. That is what the Nazis and Japanese were notorious for doing. I am glad we had soldiers who held themselves to a higher standard.
 
A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.

Pfft. They got better than they deserved. A bullet in the ear and a shallow unmarked grave under a pile of pig s**t would have been more appropriate.
 
Deltasilver said:
A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.

Pfft. They got better than they deserved. A bullet in the ear and a shallow unmarked grave under a pile of pig s**t would have been more appropriate.
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I wonder how the "neutrals" (only in a combat sense :rolleyes: - they helped financially to a massive extent :(, as we later dicovered :mad:) felt about what those war criminals did during the war....:bangHead:
 
Deltasilver said:
A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.

Pfft. They got better than they deserved. A bullet in the ear and a shallow unmarked grave under a pile of pig s**t would have been more appropriate.
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Not that I disagree in most cases, but the Allies still had to deal with the rest of the World.
 
TheTooner said:
Pierrepont was very professional and seems to have acted on the belief that the condemned deserved the consideration of a quick execution with the least pain and fuss possible. I think he would have noticed that made it easier on everyone else involved, too.

Winston Churchill is reported to have remarked, not particularly in connection with executions, something to the effect of "If you have to kill a man, it costs you nothing to do so courteously."
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I suppose it's all well and good for me to talk about bullets in the ear and shallow graves, but I honestly wonder - Would this kind of crap go on if there was a really good chance the officials and henchmen would end up on the receiving end of what they had been dishing out?

Which is the bigger deterrent; The prospect of spending the final couple weeks of their lives hanging from their thumbs in a cold basement somewhere before taking their turn "up the chimney", or a quick dignified end at the end of a rope?
 
I don't think being hanged is all that dignified, but I suppose it might have made a difference to some people. But I think the deterrent effect rests very much on whether they thought they would be caught and executed (it appears they generally didn't think so until it was too late,) and very little on how they might be put to death if that were to be their fate.
 
Deltasilver said:
A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.

Pfft. They got better than they deserved. A bullet in the ear and a shallow unmarked grave under a pile of pig s**t would have been more appropriate.
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They should have died the same way their victims did.

There would have been no shortage of volunteers.
 
I don't think being hanged is all that dignified

Perhaps not. But then I think you might agree that "We" let them off easier than the Russians did. :evil:

They should have died the same way their victims did.

+1
 
MapleSugar said:
Actually, it set a precedent for the rest of the World.

A lot of the neutral countries were disgusted at the way the war criminals were put on display at trial and then executed afterwards.
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A lot of neutral countries were making huge profits off of trade with both sides during the hostilities.
 
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