Guneegoogoo. I found those two riffles in the EE and yes that one t3 custom build is a sweet gun and I'd be interested in it more if it wasn't a right hand grip.
A funny side note on that gun. Do any of you recall that blue black or white gold dress photo that went viral about a year ago. The photos of that gun started a similar debate among my family tonight. My wife though it was a really nice gold gun and refused to believe it was blue and grey.
Well thanks again for the info. I've actually been looking at those Tikka sporterT3 at wholesale but it seems they only come in right handed models. However I just looked at their website and they now come in left handed models. I do like the grey laminate more than that orange that tikka has chosen to use. I will keep an open mind though.
Does any one know why the savage model 12 in 308 only has a 1:12 twist? I would have thought for long range targets you'd want to shoot the 208gr match bullets no?
Here's my 2 cents. I just started long range shooting. To start I bought a set up rifle used with about 175 rounds through it. It is a Savage FCP-K in .308. It sports a Bushnell 10x40. Factory accutrigger. With Nosler match it was a 1-1.25 MOA gun. Not bad I thought, for a guy who hasn't really been into long range style of shooting. I then learned about the second sport involved with owning a target rifle.....reloading. With 168 Hornady HPBT over 43.3 grains of RL15, Federal 210m primer and Nosler brass it shoots .75 moa or less as long as I do my part and honestly the rifle shoots better than I can. I can ring the 800m gong at my range very consistently.
Moral of the story, I have less than a 1000 bucks invested into a rifle that shoots better than i can right now. I can always upgrade. .308 has taught me a lot about ballistics and reloading. I have no regrets about buying a savage. Especially at the price point.
Thanks Gunnygoogoo. I was at TNT yesterday looking at that very gun. I thought it was new but it was on the bottom row. Mainly I thought it was new was because the price was the same as they are listed on Cabela's website as new. That one at TNT is in 308.
Forget the Mini 14. Go with the Savage in .223, but make sure it has the 1:7" twist barrel. This will allow you to shoot 80 and 90 gr bullets. The 80 gr .223 bullet will shoot as well or better than a 155 gr .308 bullet all the way out to 1000 yards. In fact the elevation changes between the 155 and the 80 gr bullets are within 1 MOA at every distance from 300 yards to 1000 yards. And the 80's are slightly better in the wind when comparing them to 155 gr SMK bullets. The only drawback is that the .223 bullet holes are harder to find on the target than the .30 cal bullets. The target marker has to be on his/her toes. At the DCRA annual matches in Ottawa there is a whole set of matches dedicated to the .223 only.
If you want a 6.5-.284, count on putting on a new barrel every 1200 rounds. The .223 or .308 will need a new barrel every 4000-5000 rounds.
What do you think about the Tikka T3 Lite I believe it has a twist rate 1:8" in .223? It's under $1000 around my price range. Would it be competitive enough? or do you have to go with 1:7 (Savage) I think they are $1400. Also do you think Cedar Springs will be running this year? Thx
Ryan