Recoil Comparison .264 WM vs 7mm RM

There are two factors that initiated my interest with the .264 Winchester, the cool factor (very uncommon chambering), and owning one would give me three of the four members of this cartidge family.

I have two 7mm Remington Magnums and one .338 Winchester Magnum. Adding a .264 Winchester Magnum leaves me wanting only a .458 to round out the collection. Of course there is the .416 Taylor, but it is considered a wildcat; besides I don't need a .416 or a .458. Then again, I don't need a .264 either.

Barrel burner does not apply to me, I don't shoot enough to be worried about such issues. The recoil doesn't bother me either, but I know my wife wouldn't be very fond of it. She'd just have to get her own gun.

Maybe I'll think on this a bit further.
 
Yeah, those are attractive chamberings.

As I understand things, the a shortened 300 H&H Mag is the basis for all of the chamberings that I have mentioned as well as the Two Weatherbys and the 300 Win Mag. The 358 Norma, while very similar to the 338 Winchester is, I'm told, different brass altogether. :?:

For my purposes I see the 7mm Rem Mag as a necked-up 264 Win Mag and/or a necked down 338 Win Mag. The 264, 300, 338, and 458 Win Mags represent the four standard length belted Mags offered by Winchester. The 416 Taylor is a necked-down 458 Win Mag.

I consider the Weatherby Chamberings a family unto their own.

So yes I did forget the obvious when I didn't mention the 300 Win Mag. :oops: However, I respectfully draw my line at that point. :)
 
They are all shortened 375 H&H brass, some with different shoulder designs (Weatherbys). The 358 Norma Mag started out from the same basic brass as the 7mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, et al. The one exception is the 240 Wby, which is 30-06 brass with a belt and a radiused shoulder. So basic shortened 375 H&H brass gives you the 264 Win Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, and 458 Win Mag. Basic shortened H&H brass with a shoulder design change gives you the 257, 270, and 7mm Wby magnums. Really shortened H&H brass gives you the 350 Rem Mag and 6.5 Rem Mag. Pretty much all the other factory belted offerings are on full length H&H brass, the one exception being the 300 Win Mag, which is longer then the 338 etc. brass, but shorter then the full length H&H stuff. All the other beltless designs? 404 Jeffrys, 416 Rigby, and 348 Win with the rim removed. That's 99.9% of the case designs used in NA. The PPC stuff is shortened Russian brass, and there are a few oddball European designs (most of thier stuff is based on the original Mauser cartridge), but that's pretty much it. I've probably forgot a few, but this covers the majority of brass designs around today. FWIW - dan
 
I read the Winchester press release on the 264.They had the 458 case and loved the ballistics of the 6.5 140gr.For a long range deer rifle,the 6.5mm numbers put it at the top or near it.But to make the most of it,the rifle must be both fast and accurate.A 270 is more practical,but no challenge.What's the load,a full case of H-4831 and a 130?
 
To answer the original question, I have had both and I found the recoil to be somewhat milder. The two rifles in question were a model 70 supergrade 264 and a Sako S/S 7mm mag. Both rifles would weigh around 10 lbs.
 
Well it doesn't matter much to me now, I just blew what was left in my budget (and in the good books with my wife) on a Sako L61 in 270 Win., laminated stock, sling, scope and rings. It was a impulse buy.
 
The 264 factory loads suck.I run some over the crony and 140's never ever broke 2700.But with the new powders we have now like reloader 22 the 264 really shines.I just sold mine and am wishing I would have kept it.I have a 7 Mag and the recoil is a little more than the 264.
 
John Barness in Handloader ran some Winchester out of his Westerner,3100 and change.In the 264 there can be slow barrels,the FN I had was.With a new barrel ,I found Ramshot Magnum THE powder.
 
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