Refinishing stocks on Milsurps

Food for thought:
Pretty much every ex-military gun out there that is in the hands of collectors has seen some form or 1st, 2nd or even 3rd line work via armours. The Un-touched Milsurps are in museums, pattern rooms or buried on an old battlefield somewhere. Ones in pristine condition were likely never issued (but most likely have seen 3rd line repair) or have seen further refurbishment after service.
Some of these old armours and civilians alike continued and continue to work at restoration of old stuff. In many cases this work is easily replicating the differing lines of military repair and could easily pass as 'original'. So what is original? What came out of the factory, or what came out of the military stores upon surplusing?

I look at it like this: the wood is deteriorating the moment it is cut down in the forest. Most preservation methods originally used on military gun stocks are pretty poor performers (tung and linseed oils and shellac for the most part).
The grime, dirt, and further oils that have embedded in the stock from use are deteriorating that wood further.
Cleaning and preserving the wood using period methods and materials with modern museum methods of restoration work should not remove the value, as leaving it alone will allow it to continue to deteriorate. If you are at all concerned with devaluing it though, best to leave it alone as my line of thinking appears to be in the minority amongst serious collectors.
 
I would not generally want to refinish a stock that had a service finish and the dents, dings and dirt associated with use. On the other hand, I don't see any reason to preserve for all time the modern damage caused by careless packaging and handling. The evidence that your rifle got chucked around in the back of the UPS van isn't "historically significant". Each case judged on its own circumstances.
 
Food for thought:
Pretty much every ex-military gun out there that is in the hands of collectors has seen some form or 1st, 2nd or even 3rd line work via armours. The Un-touched Milsurps are in museums, pattern rooms or buried on an old battlefield somewhere. Ones in pristine condition were likely never issued (but most likely have seen 3rd line repair) or have seen further refurbishment after service.
Some of these old armours and civilians alike continued and continue to work at restoration of old stuff. In many cases this work is easily replicating the differing lines of military repair and could easily pass as 'original'. So what is original? What came out of the factory, or what came out of the military stores upon surplusing?

I look at it like this: the wood is deteriorating the moment it is cut down in the forest. Most preservation methods originally used on military gun stocks are pretty poor performers (tung and linseed oils and shellac for the most part).
The grime, dirt, and further oils that have embedded in the stock from use are deteriorating that wood further.
Cleaning and preserving the wood using period methods and materials with modern museum methods of restoration work should not remove the value, as leaving it alone will allow it to continue to deteriorate. If you are at all concerned with devaluing it though, best to leave it alone as my line of thinking appears to be in the minority amongst serious collectors.

I have two issued milsurps that were never fired. One was manufactured in 1976 and the other in 1981. Just loaded with cosmo and stored. After judicious cleaning, they are as new as when the factory churned them out. The wood is unmarked with no flaws. I have treated the wood for the dry humidity, but these have only been fired less than 100 rounds each, ever (by me, of course).

So there are new ones around. And I'm far from a serious collector.
 
Ok, I'll bite. What are they and how do you know they were never fired? Aside from the look of it appearing unfired, do you have providence through documentation they were never fired?
 
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