Registering a shotgun as a restricted pistol

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Just curious if I can register a super short shotty ala serbu shotgun pistol if take a 8.5" Dlask or grizzly barrel and pistol grip it?

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Just register it as a short barreled shotgun ... That way you can de restrict it again .. Once something is a pistol there is no going back .. Restricted that's a different story
 
A pump shotgun is either restricted as a pistol, or non restricted. It isn't like a semi where putting a longer barrel on it will de restrict it. Don't ask why, the RCMP didn't ask my input. It's actually in writing somewhere and was posted a couple of years ago. It was in the frt disc for verifiers I believe. If I recall was under a heading 870 TYPE shotguns. Barrel under 16" combined with over all length under 26" will be classified as a handgun. And once restricted it's restricted forever. Which may or may not matter to you if you just shoot at the range, but that will make it virtually unsaleable.
 
dogzilla said:
A pump shotgun is either restricted as a pistol, or non restricted. It isn't like a semi where putting a longer barrel on it will de restrict it. Don't ask why, the RCMP didn't ask my input. It's actually in writing somewhere and was posted a couple of years ago. It was in the frt disc for verifiers I believe. If I recall was under a heading 870 TYPE shotguns. Barrel under 16" combined with over all length under 26" will be classified as a handgun. And once restricted it's restricted forever. Which may or may not matter to you if you just shoot at the range, but that will make it virtually unsaleable.
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If it doesn't have a pistol grip, theres no legal way for them to even classify it as a handgun. Look up the definition of handgun in the criminal code...

If its not designed or altered to be fired with only one hand, then its not a handgun.

Therefore, if it still has a full stock, it remains a shotgun. My sources are the criminal code firearms definitions, please cite yours.

If I can help, the letter from the RCMP regarding this issue was about a pistol grip shotgun. They wrote that it "may be a handgun".
Ask Canada Ammo about it. Extensive threads on this.
 
to muddy the water a little bit more i have been given conflicting information about barrel length and pistol grip combinations from tecs that answer your questions . to be clear i was redirected from the firearms center to the tec department . on the first occasion about three years ago i was told that any combination of a sixteen inch barrel or shorter combined with a pistol grip would result in a restricted firearm . recently i inquired about using a birds head grip on a less than 18 inch barreled shotgun and was told as long as it met the overall length of 26 inches it was unrestricted. needless to say i will not be doing any thing until i do some further checking and get something in writing . i was also told it did not matter what configuration the stock was as long as it met the 26 inch mark . i then brought up the mares leg and her answer was that it was deemed unrestricted because it had been built on an antique receiver .i am of the opinion that the left hand does not know what the right is doing and the gun owner is left in legal limbo. i am not pleased with these answers as they are at odds .
 
I think the general consensus is that as long as the overall length of the gun is 26" or more, then it will be non-restricted. If it is less, then restricted. Just don't cut the barrel or else it becomes prohibited.
 
That also kills me .. There's likely some 8 year old kid in china making our 8 inch grizzley barrels .. But he's more qualified than me to make a short barrel ... Thanks for keeping us safe RCMP
 
I wanted to put a pistol grip on my 8.5" Grizzly, but decided against it because I like it as NR. I guess I could just buy another one and have one of each, but that just shows how silly our classification system is.
 
Juster said:
So I am compelled to wonder about a folding stock with no pistol grip on an 8.5" grizzly. Clearly not a pistol, and installing a stock isn't modifying the firearm.
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a folding stock will put the gun into the prohibited category if it is less than twenty six inches and can fire . the pistol grip or lack of it does not make any difference.i do not have the regulations handy but i know it for a fact .
 
farmer47 said:
to muddy the water a little bit more i have been given conflicting information about barrel length and pistol grip combinations from tecs that answer your questions . to be clear i was redirected from the firearms center to the tec department . on the first occasion about three years ago i was told that any combination of a sixteen inch barrel or shorter combined with a pistol grip would result in a restricted firearm . recently i inquired about using a birds head grip on a less than 18 inch barreled shotgun and was told as long as it met the overall length of 26 inches it was unrestricted. needless to say i will not be doing any thing until i do some further checking and get something in writing . i was also told it did not matter what configuration the stock was as long as it met the 26 inch mark . i then brought up the mares leg and her answer was that it was deemed unrestricted because it had been built on an antique receiver .i am of the opinion that the left hand does not know what the right is doing and the gun owner is left in legal limbo. i am not pleased with these answers as they are at odds .
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No matter what they tell you over the phone, the day you get arrested on the assumption that it is not properly registered, your "I was told it was OK in a phone conversation" excuse won't get you out of the police cruiser and on your way.

For questions like these, you need to send a letter and get an official answer in writing. Plain and simple.
 
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