Reichs revolver hand spring

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Could someone with a single action reich's revolver take the side plate off and send me a photo showing how the hand spring works, please.

This spring appears to be a thin wire V shaped spring which is in a recess in the front of the hammer but I can't see how the spring can make it from the hammer to the hand, in that the hammer comes tight to the back of the receiver

thanks mooncoon
 
both the spring and the hand were missing. I made my hand a little more arched that the one in the diagram above but I just cannot figure out how the hand spring is able to exert force on the hand. The spring in the diagram appears to be a flat spring but that does not seem to match up with the hand or the spaced in the side plate. I am starting to wonder if the hand itself is milled away to provide room for a spring on the outside of the hammer. Trouble is that does not explain why the hammer has a slot along its leading edge (one that looks just right for a spring to fit in.
thanks for the diagram; I was not able to find one on the web perhaps because I did not want to register on a luger forum that seemed to have a lot of diagrams (potentially)

cheers mooncoon
 
It looks to me (by the diagram, so ...grain of salt) that the spring should be a flat unit that anchors above the arm, nearer the firing pin, so that it's end is fairly close to the pivot of the hand. That would allow a fairly stiff spring to exert a reasonable force, while folding nicely out of the way when compressed.

Again. No personal experience with this, but that is how it looks like it should be from the diagram and the very not to clear pictures I see about the web.

There was a Belgian dude that was spamming pretty much all the gun forums, selling his ebooks on various old guns. It might be worth looking his site up and seeing if it is worth while to you to buy a copy, or prowl around the web and see if anyone has a copy available for download. <edit> : HLebooks. Does not cover the Reichsrevolver apparently


Cheers
Trev
 
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Hi Mooncoon

Here are a few quick pics of the hammer/hand assembly for a RR1883, the one Dingus has is probably a old fix it job. The RRs are nicely made with minimal tolerances. I have a rather large collection of RR1883s from three of the major manufacturers (Suhl, Dreyse and Erfurt) and they all look the same inside and the parts are interchangeable. If you would like I can take out a couple of different hands and measure them and email you the dimensions. I can also take out the springs and photo/measure them as well.

Cheers David








Another hammer/hand assembly from a different manufacturer
 
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He wants needs my type of spring thats why i posted it being as he is makeing the hand and spring from scratch mine should be easyer.
you other guys were right the side cover pushs on the spring makeing it work.
It does sit there on its own to tho its a well fited spring.
I think this will be alot easyer for him to make than the kind they had orignal.

If he was going to go orignal type then the S&W NM # 3s use a very simlar hand and spring like in Figgs picture.
They do bugger up tho and are harder to fix than the one i posted.
You dont have to pull the entire main spring out and hammer to change fix the spring in my gun :)
 
thanks muchly all. I am agonizing over which way to go. I am torn between replicating the original method and using the method that Dingus suggests and the difficulty of choice is not the difficulty of making the parts but rather the V spring method looks a lot more effective than the original method. For the moment the original method has the advantage that the V spring needs to be compressed slightly when replacing the side plate (which has a deep recess in it for the hand to fit into

cheers mooncoon
 
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