Reloading 7.62 tok ?

[fightinghamster]

So I’m cheap and mostly shoot non corrosive norinco red box 7.62x25, only just getting into reloading (still gathering materials) and I’m not sure if I can reload the cases I’m picking up, there not brass(at least I don’t think they are) there a copper colour, anyone reloaded this type of ammo before? Any help is appreciated

 

[Snider shooter]

Find boxer primed brass cases. Not worth reloading the steel cases.

 

[Hitzy]

I wouldn't reload bottle neck pistol brass if you paid me to.

 

[gewehr76]

yes bottle neck a bit tricky to reload, but once the you figure out neck tension with your bullets its no difference than bottle neck rifle reloading. OP don't bother with copper plated cases, they are not reloadable. look for starline, S&B, PPU or Fiocchi gfl boxer primed brass, those you can reload

 

[Ganderite]

I reload for several 7.62x25 pistols. I discovered that the 110g plated M1 Carbine bullets shoot very, very well.
I bought a few bags of Starline brass.

It is just as easy to load as any other pistol case. The 357 Sig is a bottleneck and loads easily, too.

I have loaded the XTP, the M1 Carbine (plated) and lead bullets made for a 32 S&W. All worked well, but the 110g carbine bullet was one of the cheapest and was the most accurate.

I once shot a CQB match with a Polish Tok. Excellent pistol. Only negative was that I had to try hard to recover some of my brass.

 

[fightinghamster]

yes bottle neck a bit tricky to reload, but once the you figure out neck tension with your bullets its no difference than bottle neck rifle reloading. OP don't bother with copper plated cases, they are not reloadable. look for starline, S&B, PPU or Fiocchi gfl boxer primed brass, those you can reload

Good to know thanks

 

[.30/06 FTW]

I’m dipping my toes into reloading it. My buddy cuts down .223 brass and reforms it into 7.62x25. He also casts 95 grain .32 SWCs that he sizes down. I used to think he was crazy but given how much ammo prices have gone up this year I’m intrigued by it, especially when you can mindlessly do a lot of the brass work watching TV.

 

[B]

I wouldn't reload bottle neck pistol brass if you paid me to.

I literally do nothing different from loading straight wall cases like 9x19 when loading x25. I have steel dies and I don't even lube the cases. Zero issues over several thousand rounds made and shot. I really wish I could find a short bolt-action rifle in x25.

 

[serg777]

I’m dipping my toes into reloading it. My buddy cuts down .223 brass and reforms it into 7.62x25. He also casts 95 grain .32 SWCs that he sizes down. I used to think he was crazy but given how much ammo prices have gone up this year I’m intrigued by it, especially when you can mindlessly do a lot of the brass work watching TV.

I've tried 223 brass as well, just as a fun experimental project doing like 20 rounds. It's doable but lots of efforts. I used a small tube cutter to cut roughly to 26mm, then run through sizing die to form a bottle neck then trim to 25mm precisely on case trimmer. Run into the problem that the 223 walls are thicker, so when the bullet is seated the neck gets wider so it will not chamber. Solved it by running loaded cartridge through sizing die as a last step. Also, keep in mind - 223 head diameter is a bit smaller. So extractor might not have a full grip but it was fine in my Tok.

But why bother? Surplus ammo is around 25 cents these days. With the current cost of reloading components, you will not save anything. I rather spend 10 minutes cleaning my Tok after every session than spending hours of my time reloading it. Because I'm cheap too.

 

[.30/06 FTW]

I've tried 223 brass as well, just as a fun experimental project doing like 20 rounds. It's doable but lots of efforts. I used a small tube cutter to cut roughly to 26mm, then run through sizing die to form a bottle neck then trim to 25mm precisely on case trimmer. Run into the problem that the 223 walls are thicker, so when the bullet is seated the neck gets wider so it will not chamber. Solved it by running loaded cartridge through sizing die as a last step. Also, keep in mind - 223 head diameter is a bit smaller. So extractor might not have a full grip but it was fine in my Tok.

But why bother? Surplus ammo is around 25 cents these days. With the current cost of reloading components, you will not save anything. I rather spend 10 minutes cleaning my Tok after every session than spending hours of my time reloading it. Because I'm cheap too.

He reams the inside of the case when he trims, but also resizes the loaded round at the end.

Going by the cost of components I already have plus the bullets he's casting it's about 9.5 cents per loaded round. I gave up on corrosive ammo a long time ago because I usually don't have the time or energy to clean the gun quickly enough after a range trip (given how limited my club's range time is). But I do have time spread out over several months to do the brass prep bit by bit. Plus I have a lot of nasty .223 range pickup brass that is too damaged to reload .223 with.