Reloading 9mm, Stovepipe prob need help!!

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I'm reloading 124 Grain, 9mm. I'm using the Lee 1000 Progressive system.

The powder is Winchester Super Field, They are calling for .37 for the auto disc.

So I load to that spec and every round is stovepiping in my Beretta 92.


Any Ideas, Not evough powder load??? Chamber pressure to Low???

My overall lengh is to spec. All cases have be trimed. I have no idea??????

Need Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
weigh the charge to see if it matches what the book says... my auto disc is off by like.. .4 grains when metering titegroup. I wouldn't be surprised if it does the same with your powder
 
My guess is not enough powder.

I loaded 3.5grs of W231 for my M&P9 and it stovepipe almost everyround. I then bumped it up to 3.6grs and the problem was gone.
 
The gun could be faulty but more likely it is your ammo.

It has been my experience that the Lee printed loads that their spoons or discs are supposed to throw are usually actually lower in reality. I guess it gives their lawyers some comfort.

What you really need to be doing is see how many grains of Super Field your load needs and measure the actual powder charge from your powder measure. If you do not have a scale then may I suggest that you either borrow one or buy one.

I suspect that the stovepiping is caused by low powder charges but don't take that as being correct. It is just an educated guess on my part.

Good luck .
 
The gun could be faulty but more likely it is your ammo.

It has been my experience that the Lee printed loads that their spoons or discs are supposed to throw are usually actually lower in reality. I guess it gives their lawyers some comfort.

What you really need to be doing is see how many grains of Super Field your load needs and measure the actual powder charge from your powder measure. If you do not have a scale then may I suggest that you either borrow one or buy one.

I suspect that the stovepiping is caused by low powder charges but don't take that as being correct. It is just an educated guess on my part.

Good luck .
 
I'm assuming you're not "limp wristing" - which will pretty much have the same result.
So, low power is next in line.
As said before, weight the charge. Try midway between start & max charge.
 
Another thing to check. The load data will list a specific bullet, both weight and bullet length (not OAL of the finished cartridge). If the bullet you are using is substantially shorter than the one specified in the load, and you load to the same OAL, then the pressure/velocity will be much lower.

This can be the case say, if you use data for a long HP bullet, but use a squat flat pointed solid bullet instead, and load to the same OAL.

So you can either increase powder or shorten OAL a little. (calculate the difference between the lenght of the 2 bullets and seat your bullet that much further in.)
 
"....37..." As in 3.7 grains of WSF? That's below minimum. Minimum for a jacketed bullet is 4.7 grains. 4.0 for a cast bullet. You need to work up the load first.
 
The .37 disc is supposed to deliver 4.4 grains of WSF as per the LEE documentation. Might not be the case. Try weighing the charge and adjust as required.
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9mm WSF load

Just FYI, I load 4.5gr of WSF under AIM plated 124 gr. for my M&P9. Anything less gives me stovepipes and FTE all day. My buddy's new SIG 226 needs 4.7gr of WSF under the same AIM slugs to run properly.
 
i use the adjustable charge bar and i've got the old 92sb heel type beretta -my reloading manual speer 11 says a min of 4.6 of 231 and a max of 5- i found that 4.6 was not enough and was experiencing exactly the same as what you're getting-it would also cause the uzi not to get the full travel on the breechblock- i went to the 130 grain semiwadcutter that's meant for the 38 super and the problem cleared up- so it's your powder charge
 
I can just about guarantee you that you will be lucky to get 4.0g out of that cavity. Lee is notoriously light on their data. The starting load for the 124 and WSF is shown as 4.7g for FMJ (5.3max)so it is no wonder you are having difficulty. Try a few test throws of the next size cavity and see if its within spec. Try it a few times to ensure it is accurate.
Cheers
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sunray said:
"....37..." As in 3.7 grains of WSF? That's below minimum. Minimum for a jacketed bullet is 4.7 grains. 4.0 for a cast bullet. You need to work up the load first.
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Works for me 4.5grains Hp -38 -124gr jacketed bullet from AIM"s:rockOn:
no problems at the Ontario IPSC provincials checked out fine on the chronie stage all good:welcome:
 
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